Dr. Rhonda Barofsky

As well as taking into account both groups.

As well as taking into account both groups.

You get consistent estimates. But it's really interesting and it looks like that during the meditation, the reason the upsetness changed was because the belief of the negative thoughts changed. Is that fair?

You get consistent estimates. But it's really interesting and it looks like that during the meditation, the reason the upsetness changed was because the belief of the negative thoughts changed. Is that fair?

Yeah. Cool. Well, that's that's a fantastic thing. And I know you're doing a lot of research on a lot of things simultaneously, but it's like a cornucopia of of discovery here.

Yeah. Cool. Well, that's that's a fantastic thing. And I know you're doing a lot of research on a lot of things simultaneously, but it's like a cornucopia of of discovery here.

Let's make a list of questions.

Let's make a list of questions.

Well, let me start out making it more basic. Is the effect due to meditation or placebo? Wouldn't that be like expectations effect?

Well, let me start out making it more basic. Is the effect due to meditation or placebo? Wouldn't that be like expectations effect?

And then the second question that you said, the third one was Hawthorne, but what was the second one that you said? Is the effect...

And then the second question that you said, the third one was Hawthorne, but what was the second one that you said? Is the effect...

Oh yeah. That'd be a good one. Um, And then is the effect due to a sampling issue?

Oh yeah. That'd be a good one. Um, And then is the effect due to a sampling issue?

But we might be able to control for them with this data, because you have some data on that, how familiar they are, what their expectations are for meditation. We can find out the magnitude of those causal effects, if they are having causal effects. But the same as in our general thing, are we attracting a population of people with positive expectations and positive experiences with meditation?

But we might be able to control for them with this data, because you have some data on that, how familiar they are, what their expectations are for meditation. We can find out the magnitude of those causal effects, if they are having causal effects. But the same as in our general thing, are we attracting a population of people with positive expectations and positive experiences with meditation?

Because these were... you know, random from a larger group. So these were the ones that wanted to participate in an experiment on meditation. Is that right?

Because these were... you know, random from a larger group. So these were the ones that wanted to participate in an experiment on meditation. Is that right?

Yeah. and once again, I think from my point of view, we're seeing some reductions in negative feelings and some boosts in positive feelings with at least one of the meditation exercises, which kind of puts a nail in David's coffin that meditation really doesn't do much for you. But on the other hand, the size of the effect was no different from a placebo effect, which supports David's thing.

Yeah. and once again, I think from my point of view, we're seeing some reductions in negative feelings and some boosts in positive feelings with at least one of the meditation exercises, which kind of puts a nail in David's coffin that meditation really doesn't do much for you. But on the other hand, the size of the effect was no different from a placebo effect, which supports David's thing.