Dr. Rhonda Barofsky

And we can look into this more with structural equations. But another thing I think that people have been saying for a long time is, To me, I'm pretty much of a pure cognitive therapist. I believe that change in negative feelings comes from a change in perceptions. And a lot of people don't buy that at all and angrily don't buy it.

And we can look into this more with structural equations. But another thing I think that people have been saying for a long time is, To me, I'm pretty much of a pure cognitive therapist. I believe that change in negative feelings comes from a change in perceptions. And a lot of people don't buy that at all and angrily don't buy it.

And they'll say, well, you can get a runner's high and that proves that it's exercise and not a change in your thinking. But, of course, when people say that, they're just kind of spouting lies

And they'll say, well, you can get a runner's high and that proves that it's exercise and not a change in your thinking. But, of course, when people say that, they're just kind of spouting lies

mindless garbage to put it in a kindly way because they're not measuring changes in negative thoughts during exercise and I exercise all the time and I never have a change in you know some boost in positive thinking I never have a boost I never have a runner's high

mindless garbage to put it in a kindly way because they're not measuring changes in negative thoughts during exercise and I exercise all the time and I never have a change in you know some boost in positive thinking I never have a boost I never have a runner's high

But what this study shows is that there is a, and I can check it out more thoroughly with structural equation modeling, but it looks like this confirms the idea that any change in negative feelings is mediated through a change in belief in negative thoughts. And I think that's

But what this study shows is that there is a, and I can check it out more thoroughly with structural equation modeling, but it looks like this confirms the idea that any change in negative feelings is mediated through a change in belief in negative thoughts. And I think that's

That's pretty exciting, and I think you're probably the first person in the world ever to measure, well, not only such refined measures of positive and negative feelings during meditation in a short period of time, but the first to document changes in negative thinking during meditation as the mechanism that changes negative feelings during meditation.

That's pretty exciting, and I think you're probably the first person in the world ever to measure, well, not only such refined measures of positive and negative feelings during meditation in a short period of time, but the first to document changes in negative thinking during meditation as the mechanism that changes negative feelings during meditation.

What did you make of the fact that there was this, something I wouldn't have predicted at all, this big boost in... feelings after the first meditation and nothing much after that except for that the percent belief kept going down and then the percent upsetness from that belief went down and any thoughts about that or

What did you make of the fact that there was this, something I wouldn't have predicted at all, this big boost in... feelings after the first meditation and nothing much after that except for that the percent belief kept going down and then the percent upsetness from that belief went down and any thoughts about that or

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Would the body scan one be because it was first or because it was different?

Would the body scan one be because it was first or because it was different?

You're hypnotized.

You're hypnotized.

Or put you in a different hypnotic state.

Or put you in a different hypnotic state.