Dr. Rhonda Patrick

OK, well, let's talk a little bit more about, you know, fat.

And we kind of talked about this a little earlier about, you know, not all fat being equal.

And a lot of people are thinking about fat as just stored calories.

But I mean, there's much more to this picture.

Right.

So there's.

There are different ways we store fat, and there's the subcutaneous way, there's visceral fat.

These fats are not the same.

I know when you were talking about liver biopsies, you kept pointing to the abdominal region.

I was wondering if you were talking about you were getting visceral fat biopsies or probably not.

But can you talk a little bit about these different types of fat and what...

determines whether or not you're going to store fat subcutaneously versus viscerally.

Yeah.

Why visceral fat is so dangerous.

So with respect to these hyperplasia versus like hypertrophy fat cells, and I probably should have mentioned the visceral fat, the fat lining the organs, you mentioned the visceral cavities.

Yeah.

You mentioned the fact that the fat in the adipose tissue will become insulin resistant to basically shut down growth as a response, like adaptation.

Like, okay, we got to stop growing.

What about spillover of fat?

Like, is this feeding into that whole ceramide pathway that you started to talk about where is visceral fat and is this hypertrophy like swollen fat cell also causing more ceramides to go into your system?