Dr. Rhonda Patrick

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avoid them.

I try to mostly avoid them.

I mean, at home, olive oil is what I use for cooking, for everything.

But I also think they've been overly demonized in the fitness and health world.

And I know that many of our listeners that are listening, watching, have heard a lot of conflicting information about sea turtles.

But maybe you could start with just summarizing what sea turtles are and why are they such a controversial topic?

Can I interrupt for a second?

Because you're talking about the Mendelian randomization studies, and I do want to talk about carnivore diets in a minute too.

But I've heard a lot in that community, these studies that are cited, low LDL is actually a higher predictor of all-cause mortality and early death.

Yeah, after age 65, yeah.

Right.

But those studies that you were just talking about, to me, are the argument against that because they're showing people with natural PCSK9, when they're having a lower level of it, and they have naturally just lower levels of LDL throughout their life, they have a lower all-cause mortality.

They have a lower cardiovascular-related mortality.

So to me, it's like, well,

The low LDL because they got sick or old or whatever is causing their LDL to drop.

It's a correlation.

Certainly in the cohort studies.

Yeah.

So the seed oils, so far the randomized controlled trial evidence doesn't suggest it increases cardiovascular disease.