Dr. Rhonda Patrick

But for people that perhaps don't have insomnia, have apnea.

Right.

So I was wondering if you had any tips on some more advanced type of sleep hygiene.

Like we know, we all know dark, cold, quiet.

Rocket science, right?

Yeah, rocket science.

But like, are there any other sort of more advanced sleep hygiene techniques?

Like, oh, maybe your resting heart rate or respiratory rate or something like that.

Like people could.

That's fascinating.

I've noticed that, of course, when I'm traveling and I'm outside all the time.

And then it's like being in my hotel, I don't usually have my dimmers and everything that I usually have.

But it doesn't matter because I am dead tired after being outside.

Right.

A couple of questions, follow-up questions for that.

Do you think the time of morning light matters a lot?

Like you wake up in the morning and like, is it like first thing you go outside and how long should you have to go outside for 30 minutes?

So you're saying you want to use the caffeine for, you know, when you basically more need it, when you're working, maybe adenosine builds up.

That's why I drink decaf coffee at 11 a.m.

and I feel like it's totally working and I'm totally fine with that placebo.