Dr. Richard Moulange

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80,000 Hours Podcast · #241 – Richard Moulange on how now AI codes viable genomes from scratch and outperforms virologists at lab work — what could go wrong? · 31 Mar 2026 podcast

The word might be slightly different, but it's about responsible protein design.

And there's a statement that many leading scientists have signed that says, oh, this could be really dangerous.

We have to do it responsibly.

I think that statement is a good starting point, but it's not enough.

But that's already evidence that there are people who recognize that there are security risks from their work and want to engage with the governance and security communities and that they want to really try and mitigate the worst downsides of powerful dual use technologies.

Yes, this is more optimistic.

There's more here.

So I would refer you and your listeners, those who are interested, to a blog post from the Frontier Model Forum where they wrote down every single AI bio safeguard that they could think of.

And I think this is the sort of most comprehensive results.

I'm not going to go through all of them.

But generally, roughly, it's the stuff that Anthropic has done.

has usually been good.

And I'm not trying to be, you know, biased in favor of them.

No, no, not at all.

I can criticize them.

I don't think they're perfect.

But on the best evals we have, it looks like they refuse the most.

Arguably, they over-refuse sometimes.

I think you spoke on an earlier podcast about Claude, you know, refusing to discuss something very reasonable.

Very defensive technology that you should be able to discuss.

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