Dr. Richard Moulange

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80,000 Hours Podcast · #241 – Richard Moulange on how now AI codes viable genomes from scratch and outperforms virologists at lab work — what could go wrong? · 31 Mar 2026 podcast

come from the UK.

So it was explicitly baked in that even if you're only cutting a tiny bit of the malicious ordering space off, that this would still give benefits.

Now, you're right that there could be a world where there's absolutely 0% that the UK alone has mandated synthesis screening.

So no one else tries.

So we already have some voluntary screening.

There's this organization, the IGSC, the International Gene Synthesis Consortium, whose industry members agree to all screen to a certain standard.

So we have that and people still order in the UK.

Maybe you're saying, oh, well, it's none of the bad people.

It's only the good people.

But then I would come back to whom are you trying to stop?

with gene synthesis screening.

It's not states because they have local synthesis capabilities themselves in most cases.

They're not actually going to be ordering from a US or a UK company.

Instead, it's often your so-called highly capable individuals.

And so in the UK, thankfully, 99.99, I have many nines, of people with lab access in the UK are, I think, fundamentally good people who want to use science to help the world.

However, I assume that the number of people in the UK who wish to cause harm in this way is not zero.

They might order from a UK source, because especially if you imagine you're in a lab and you usually order from one kind of company, and then suddenly your colleagues notice you've ordered a different one,

And people are like, hey, well, why is this thing in the mail?

Already there are like questions of obfuscation.

There are questions of counter surveillance that get to the point that there might be reasons that someone in the UK would want to order from a UK firm because it is easy for them to access that domestically and to disguise what they're doing.

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