Dr. Richard Winters

And so it's not only like, geez, wouldn't it be great if everyone got together and we made good decisions and we were kind of sensible as we're approaching that. Even if you're like evil, like leader, and you decided that you didn't care about the individual effects on people, it's still not a good way of making decisions because your quality is going to go down, your churn is going to go up,

And it's just going to be hurting the organization. And so this is really for us to be able to respond to these really complex situations that we faced. It makes sense for us to figure out how to bring groups of people together, share different perspectives, and then move forward.

And it's just going to be hurting the organization. And so this is really for us to be able to respond to these really complex situations that we faced. It makes sense for us to figure out how to bring groups of people together, share different perspectives, and then move forward.

And it's just going to be hurting the organization. And so this is really for us to be able to respond to these really complex situations that we faced. It makes sense for us to figure out how to bring groups of people together, share different perspectives, and then move forward.

So I think that happens when we have back channels. And you can look at social media and there's lots of back channels. And if I'm on one back channel and I'm saying something, it can be completely different than my colleague who has this different point of view. And as we're on those back channels, the differences that we have just heighten. It just increases and increases.

So I think that happens when we have back channels. And you can look at social media and there's lots of back channels. And if I'm on one back channel and I'm saying something, it can be completely different than my colleague who has this different point of view. And as we're on those back channels, the differences that we have just heighten. It just increases and increases.

So I think that happens when we have back channels. And you can look at social media and there's lots of back channels. And if I'm on one back channel and I'm saying something, it can be completely different than my colleague who has this different point of view. And as we're on those back channels, the differences that we have just heighten. It just increases and increases.

Same thing happens in our organizations. And so if you're running a meeting and the leader is speaking up and maybe the other loud voice is speaking up and you're moving things in a direction, there are back channels there that are going to be moving in the background and then again, making things not so successful.

Same thing happens in our organizations. And so if you're running a meeting and the leader is speaking up and maybe the other loud voice is speaking up and you're moving things in a direction, there are back channels there that are going to be moving in the background and then again, making things not so successful.

Same thing happens in our organizations. And so if you're running a meeting and the leader is speaking up and maybe the other loud voice is speaking up and you're moving things in a direction, there are back channels there that are going to be moving in the background and then again, making things not so successful.

But as you have these friends and colleagues who have different political ideas, different religious ideas, different values and those sorts of things, as people come together and start to share opinions, you start to see that actually they're not so different. And in many cases, the differences of opinion are really a part of the whole. I mean, it's a part. Things aren't necessarily yes or no.

But as you have these friends and colleagues who have different political ideas, different religious ideas, different values and those sorts of things, as people come together and start to share opinions, you start to see that actually they're not so different. And in many cases, the differences of opinion are really a part of the whole. I mean, it's a part. Things aren't necessarily yes or no.

But as you have these friends and colleagues who have different political ideas, different religious ideas, different values and those sorts of things, as people come together and start to share opinions, you start to see that actually they're not so different. And in many cases, the differences of opinion are really a part of the whole. I mean, it's a part. Things aren't necessarily yes or no.

Things aren't necessarily right or wrong. There's often shades of gray. And in understanding these different perspectives, it helps the group to move forward in ways that are more together than kind of back channel separate, you know, kind of behind the back.

Things aren't necessarily right or wrong. There's often shades of gray. And in understanding these different perspectives, it helps the group to move forward in ways that are more together than kind of back channel separate, you know, kind of behind the back.

Things aren't necessarily right or wrong. There's often shades of gray. And in understanding these different perspectives, it helps the group to move forward in ways that are more together than kind of back channel separate, you know, kind of behind the back.

I think you bring it forward. And so honestly, I think during meetings, so it's one thing having a meeting on site where everyone's together in the same room. It's another idea than having meetings through Zoom or through other kind of video conferencing thing. And so how do we bring people together into those sorts of environments?

I think you bring it forward. And so honestly, I think during meetings, so it's one thing having a meeting on site where everyone's together in the same room. It's another idea than having meetings through Zoom or through other kind of video conferencing thing. And so how do we bring people together into those sorts of environments?

I think you bring it forward. And so honestly, I think during meetings, so it's one thing having a meeting on site where everyone's together in the same room. It's another idea than having meetings through Zoom or through other kind of video conferencing thing. And so how do we bring people together into those sorts of environments?

As I'm running retreats and things like that, what we do is we have breakout groups. And so it's not just an agenda. We're going to plow through this sort of agenda. This is what you do. This is what you do. This is what you do. What we're going to do is we're going to have moments of the meeting where we're going to ask a big question about some complex problem.