Dr. Roel Konijnendijk
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the kind of ring of enemies that surrounds them.
Right down to the end of the fourth century, they're continuously trying to regain Mycenae.
One of the quirks of their policy in this period is that the Greeks keep signing these common pieces that repeat the terms of the king's peace.
They keep saying everybody's autonomous, we're not doing any empires, we're not doing any hegemony.
Sparta refuses to sign them.
Why do they refuse to sign them?
Because signing it means acknowledging that Mycenae is autonomous.
They cannot do it, so they must remain the sort of diplomatic pariah in the Greek world.
They must remain outside of all of those treaties because they cannot agree to anything that allows Mycenae to assert, we are an autonomous state.
So they can't sign anything that quotes the king's peace.
I would not agree with that, actually.
I'm not having it wrong.
Fair enough.
Because it depends on how we interpret fall.
If we say fall from grace, fall from hegemony, I absolutely agree with you.
That's over.
The Spartans will never recover that.
But when you're talking about the fall of a city, I do kind of want to see something more dramatic than saying, okay, well, they have to relegate themselves.
They have to acknowledge increasingly that they are just a second-rate power now.
The actual invasion and destruction of Spartan territory happens a few times, even with the Thebans, but they aren't able to take the city.
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