Dr. Rosalind Chow

She asked me if I would put together a curriculum for this client that they could then pitch to them. And I was just very surprised. One that I had been asked because I was still a pretty junior faculty member at that point. I didn't have tenure yet. I had done a lot of research, but I didn't have a lot of corporate experience. And my one time teaching in exec ed had not really gotten very well.

They basically didn't have me come back afterward. It was a shock to go from not having heard from exec ed in many years to wanting me to submit like a whole program design. And then there was this very little small issue. It was a program for black leaders and I'm not black. And I had a lot of misgivings about doing it for all sorts of reasons I can get into later if we want.

They basically didn't have me come back afterward. It was a shock to go from not having heard from exec ed in many years to wanting me to submit like a whole program design. And then there was this very little small issue. It was a program for black leaders and I'm not black. And I had a lot of misgivings about doing it for all sorts of reasons I can get into later if we want.

They basically didn't have me come back afterward. It was a shock to go from not having heard from exec ed in many years to wanting me to submit like a whole program design. And then there was this very little small issue. It was a program for black leaders and I'm not black. And I had a lot of misgivings about doing it for all sorts of reasons I can get into later if we want.

I did end up saying yes, it ended up being one of the most fulfilling experiences of my career, probably also of my life. I'm very proud of that program. And more importantly, I'm very thankful for the people that I met because of that program. And part of that experience is actually what led me to writing this book.

I did end up saying yes, it ended up being one of the most fulfilling experiences of my career, probably also of my life. I'm very proud of that program. And more importantly, I'm very thankful for the people that I met because of that program. And part of that experience is actually what led me to writing this book.

I did end up saying yes, it ended up being one of the most fulfilling experiences of my career, probably also of my life. I'm very proud of that program. And more importantly, I'm very thankful for the people that I met because of that program. And part of that experience is actually what led me to writing this book.

So it very clearly is an experience that changed the trajectory of my career, turned me from an academic who normally just writes about her academic research to someone who actually, I guess I gained confidence in my ability to speak to people's experiences outside of just research.

So it very clearly is an experience that changed the trajectory of my career, turned me from an academic who normally just writes about her academic research to someone who actually, I guess I gained confidence in my ability to speak to people's experiences outside of just research.

So it very clearly is an experience that changed the trajectory of my career, turned me from an academic who normally just writes about her academic research to someone who actually, I guess I gained confidence in my ability to speak to people's experiences outside of just research.

Maybe not exactly in that way. So what is special about that program and really makes it like, it brings it close to my heart. It was a program. So we designed it in 2018 just to, cause I think the year actually matters. And it was because I was, I didn't have a track record. And I didn't know necessarily or even know or care about ruffling feathers.

Maybe not exactly in that way. So what is special about that program and really makes it like, it brings it close to my heart. It was a program. So we designed it in 2018 just to, cause I think the year actually matters. And it was because I was, I didn't have a track record. And I didn't know necessarily or even know or care about ruffling feathers.

Maybe not exactly in that way. So what is special about that program and really makes it like, it brings it close to my heart. It was a program. So we designed it in 2018 just to, cause I think the year actually matters. And it was because I was, I didn't have a track record. And I didn't know necessarily or even know or care about ruffling feathers.

I proposed a program that I wanted to be unapologetically about the black experience in America. So basically a lot of the sessions are very forthright about laying out the research on what it is like to be black, what it's like to be stereotyped, to experience bias.

I proposed a program that I wanted to be unapologetically about the black experience in America. So basically a lot of the sessions are very forthright about laying out the research on what it is like to be black, what it's like to be stereotyped, to experience bias.

I proposed a program that I wanted to be unapologetically about the black experience in America. So basically a lot of the sessions are very forthright about laying out the research on what it is like to be black, what it's like to be stereotyped, to experience bias.

And it was, I think that approach actually ended up working very well for me in the sense that it was disarming, I think, for a lot of the participants. They had never been in a space where one, they were surrounded by other leaders who looked just like them and who had incredibly similar experiences to the ones that they had. And it was

And it was, I think that approach actually ended up working very well for me in the sense that it was disarming, I think, for a lot of the participants. They had never been in a space where one, they were surrounded by other leaders who looked just like them and who had incredibly similar experiences to the ones that they had. And it was

And it was, I think that approach actually ended up working very well for me in the sense that it was disarming, I think, for a lot of the participants. They had never been in a space where one, they were surrounded by other leaders who looked just like them and who had incredibly similar experiences to the ones that they had. And it was

very affirming for them to finally hear that a lot of the questions and uncertainties that they had about how they were being treated, that it wasn't just in their heads, that it was something that had been validated by research, but also that others like them had shared those experiences. And it was an incredible bonding experience for them. And it was an incredible bonding experience for me.