Dr. Rosalind Chow

And that's an additional burden that I think a lot of people don't necessarily experience if you're not the only person in a particular space. Success, I think success comes with all sorts of responsibilities. I think we all seem to tend to understand that. But it comes with even more when you look different.

Oh, absolutely. And then that's actually why I opened the book with her example in particular. It helps that also she was a person of color, a woman in a male dominated sport where in leadership positions, people tend to be white men. But what really drew me to Kim Ang's example is that there is no version where somebody is going to argue that what she needed was a mentor.

Oh, absolutely. And then that's actually why I opened the book with her example in particular. It helps that also she was a person of color, a woman in a male dominated sport where in leadership positions, people tend to be white men. But what really drew me to Kim Ang's example is that there is no version where somebody is going to argue that what she needed was a mentor.

Oh, absolutely. And then that's actually why I opened the book with her example in particular. It helps that also she was a person of color, a woman in a male dominated sport where in leadership positions, people tend to be white men. But what really drew me to Kim Ang's example is that there is no version where somebody is going to argue that what she needed was a mentor.

She did not need more mentorship. She had so much more experience Like both inside a team and within baseball, but outside of the team, she worked in the command, a commissioner's office. She looked, she worked in the main league offices. She had so much perspective about baseball, just from so many different angles in a way that other GM candidates didn't.

She did not need more mentorship. She had so much more experience Like both inside a team and within baseball, but outside of the team, she worked in the command, a commissioner's office. She looked, she worked in the main league offices. She had so much perspective about baseball, just from so many different angles in a way that other GM candidates didn't.

She did not need more mentorship. She had so much more experience Like both inside a team and within baseball, but outside of the team, she worked in the command, a commissioner's office. She looked, she worked in the main league offices. She had so much perspective about baseball, just from so many different angles in a way that other GM candidates didn't.

She had been a part of the game for basically since she graduated from college. She did not need mentorship. And what she needed was a sponsor, right? She needed someone who was willing to step up and say, look, you all think this person is risky. If you just took her gender or her race out of the equation, there is no question that she would be the most qualified person for this role.

She had been a part of the game for basically since she graduated from college. She did not need mentorship. And what she needed was a sponsor, right? She needed someone who was willing to step up and say, look, you all think this person is risky. If you just took her gender or her race out of the equation, there is no question that she would be the most qualified person for this role.

She had been a part of the game for basically since she graduated from college. She did not need mentorship. And what she needed was a sponsor, right? She needed someone who was willing to step up and say, look, you all think this person is risky. If you just took her gender or her race out of the equation, there is no question that she would be the most qualified person for this role.

But somebody had to stand up and say that.

But somebody had to stand up and say that.

But somebody had to stand up and say that.

Well, unfortunately, and then so did she. I think it does also go to speak to how sponsors are really important. And unfortunately for many of us, once our sponsors leave, it also changes the context in ways that make it very difficult for us to continue on in those situations as well. But going back to your point about Jader being a very special person, he certainly was.

Well, unfortunately, and then so did she. I think it does also go to speak to how sponsors are really important. And unfortunately for many of us, once our sponsors leave, it also changes the context in ways that make it very difficult for us to continue on in those situations as well. But going back to your point about Jader being a very special person, he certainly was.

Well, unfortunately, and then so did she. I think it does also go to speak to how sponsors are really important. And unfortunately for many of us, once our sponsors leave, it also changes the context in ways that make it very difficult for us to continue on in those situations as well. But going back to your point about Jader being a very special person, he certainly was.

He cared about, I think, larger questions in terms of inclusion and baseball. He also brought in female front of house staff in addition to Kim. So he was at the forefront, I think, of trying to diversify baseball leadership. But again, it's this question of what were other people trying to do that already? And were they just not succeeding? Or did someone like Derek Jeter need to come along?

He cared about, I think, larger questions in terms of inclusion and baseball. He also brought in female front of house staff in addition to Kim. So he was at the forefront, I think, of trying to diversify baseball leadership. But again, it's this question of what were other people trying to do that already? And were they just not succeeding? Or did someone like Derek Jeter need to come along?

He cared about, I think, larger questions in terms of inclusion and baseball. He also brought in female front of house staff in addition to Kim. So he was at the forefront, I think, of trying to diversify baseball leadership. But again, it's this question of what were other people trying to do that already? And were they just not succeeding? Or did someone like Derek Jeter need to come along?

Like it wouldn't have happened unless someone as big as Derek Jeter was willing to plant his flag in the ground and say, this is important to me, it's important for the sport, and so this is what we're going to do. I think there is that question of how much are other people willing to put behind these sentiments that they say they have, and then how much of that is tied into