Dr. Ryan Martin

And, and, and I don't know that the answers were necessarily obvious, but, but I think that people felt like, why can't people just do whatever? And then we can get through this. Right. And when other people.

And, and, and I don't know that the answers were necessarily obvious, but, but I think that people felt like, why can't people just do whatever? And then we can get through this. Right. And when other people.

You mean during COVID, you mean? Yeah. During COVID. And then, yeah. Yeah. I think people, and people had just also just real different views of it. It was like in California, things were very locked down. And then here things were more open, you know? And it was like, what's the best way to do this? It was hard to learn.

You mean during COVID, you mean? Yeah. During COVID. And then, yeah. Yeah. I think people, and people had just also just real different views of it. It was like in California, things were very locked down. And then here things were more open, you know? And it was like, what's the best way to do this? It was hard to learn.

You mean during COVID, you mean? Yeah. During COVID. And then, yeah. Yeah. I think people, and people had just also just real different views of it. It was like in California, things were very locked down. And then here things were more open, you know? And it was like, what's the best way to do this? It was hard to learn.

Even, I mean, you know, I live in Green Bay and we've got, you know, there's the Green Bay Public Schools and there's other public school districts that are like connected, but they're all doing different things. And so there's a sense of, well, here we're doing this. five miles away, they're doing something different. Why? You know, what's going on?

Even, I mean, you know, I live in Green Bay and we've got, you know, there's the Green Bay Public Schools and there's other public school districts that are like connected, but they're all doing different things. And so there's a sense of, well, here we're doing this. five miles away, they're doing something different. Why? You know, what's going on?

Even, I mean, you know, I live in Green Bay and we've got, you know, there's the Green Bay Public Schools and there's other public school districts that are like connected, but they're all doing different things. And so there's a sense of, well, here we're doing this. five miles away, they're doing something different. Why? You know, what's going on?

And so then there's an anger and frustration amongst the people who live in those communities. And then people saying, well, I'm going to take my kids and send them to that school because they're doing this or I'm going to, you know, and so all of these things started to bubble up and lead to frustration.

And so then there's an anger and frustration amongst the people who live in those communities. And then people saying, well, I'm going to take my kids and send them to that school because they're doing this or I'm going to, you know, and so all of these things started to bubble up and lead to frustration.

And so then there's an anger and frustration amongst the people who live in those communities. And then people saying, well, I'm going to take my kids and send them to that school because they're doing this or I'm going to, you know, and so all of these things started to bubble up and lead to frustration.

Yeah, a lot of frustration. Yeah. And really, I know how to do it. People wanted to, yeah, the second you don't trust or believe that your society that's built kind of has a is looking out for you, or you can trust it, that it really, you've got to go back to yourself.

Yeah, a lot of frustration. Yeah. And really, I know how to do it. People wanted to, yeah, the second you don't trust or believe that your society that's built kind of has a is looking out for you, or you can trust it, that it really, you've got to go back to yourself.

Yeah, a lot of frustration. Yeah. And really, I know how to do it. People wanted to, yeah, the second you don't trust or believe that your society that's built kind of has a is looking out for you, or you can trust it, that it really, you've got to go back to yourself.

Well, I mean, imagine if we're not talking about society, we're just talking about a family, right? And you as like a kid in a family realize, wow, the other people in this family aren't necessarily going to do the things that are best for me. It becomes real hard to continue to feel good about that over time. People have to earn that trust back.

Well, I mean, imagine if we're not talking about society, we're just talking about a family, right? And you as like a kid in a family realize, wow, the other people in this family aren't necessarily going to do the things that are best for me. It becomes real hard to continue to feel good about that over time. People have to earn that trust back.

Well, I mean, imagine if we're not talking about society, we're just talking about a family, right? And you as like a kid in a family realize, wow, the other people in this family aren't necessarily going to do the things that are best for me. It becomes real hard to continue to feel good about that over time. People have to earn that trust back.

And I think we're right now in a phase where people don't feel like anyone's earning that trust back. They're just like, we still don't trust each other. They don't have my best interests in mind. They don't care about the same things as me. What am I going to do? How are we going to get through this? And I don't think anybody's got any answers to that.

And I think we're right now in a phase where people don't feel like anyone's earning that trust back. They're just like, we still don't trust each other. They don't have my best interests in mind. They don't care about the same things as me. What am I going to do? How are we going to get through this? And I don't think anybody's got any answers to that.

And I think we're right now in a phase where people don't feel like anyone's earning that trust back. They're just like, we still don't trust each other. They don't have my best interests in mind. They don't care about the same things as me. What am I going to do? How are we going to get through this? And I don't think anybody's got any answers to that.