Dr. Shana Cohen

And that's what I think they should be doing right now while we have a fiscal surplus is to strategize for those downturns.

Youth services is just a snapshot or an example of how the government could be listening to the people, but also investing for when the problems are now or even in the future.

I don't think the government, I don't think that there's enough long-term strategic planning happening, that there's not a narrative of the kind of society that we want in Ireland.

But that is the human element of it.