Dr. Stephanie Venn-Watson

So a strong history.

And then we just, and then we replaced,

stopped becoming saturated fat and started becoming vegetable oils and all other kinds of stuff.

Yeah, and it may just be also, too, of separating.

We're learning, we're getting smarter and smarter about fats.

We had initially put all fat in the naughty category, and then we said, okay, polyunsaturated fatty, omega-3s are good, saturated fats are bad.

Now we're understanding that even among saturated fats,

even chain can be pro-inflammatory, can increase, are associated with increased risk of type two diabetes and heart disease.

But these odd chain saturated fats are the opposite.

And there was a recent clinical trial showing that the higher the C15 with people based upon their dairy fat intake, the better their vascular resilience.

So it's really fascinating work that's been being done.

Right.

I agree.

I think, you know, they went to the right experts that are experts that have been working on dairy fat.

I think some good things that were called out was that there does seem to be something about dairy fat compared to other sources of saturated fats that

you know, make it lean toward more studies showing not only that it's not bad, but potential benefits.

But they also shared that, which is true, dairy fat studies are just a mixed bag of results.

Some are positive, some are null, some are negative.

Overall, like you said, right, it keeps you, so you are, you are kind of left with like, it was a teaser header, but it didn't give you an answer.

And I'm always shocked that with regard to that C-15 is not in this conversation, not because it's,