Dr. Steven Novella

We're always talking to that middle group, right?

The people who are swayable and maybe just have some misinformation before they go down the drain into dedicated anti-vaxxer.

So like the vaccine hesitant.

The vaccine hesitant, we can call them that.

Those are really the prime target.

And also just the general public to make them more resistant to anti-vaccine misinformation.

And they're absolutely persuadable.

So it's like the old saying, in order for a forest to be green, every tree has to be green, right?

You can't have a green forest of red trees.

We live in a democracy, ostensibly, right?

TBD.

TBD.

And to whatever extent our societies are democratic, it's also increasingly driven by science and technology.

If we want to have a rational society, people need to be rational.

And I think we're seeing that.

I mean, this is certainly an eye opener for me the last 10 years, let's say, in the United States.

Like we perhaps a little bit naively thought, oh, the system is resilient and, you know, the institutions will save us.

And I'm not saying that institutions aren't a critical component of society.

But they are way more fragile than I thought naively 10 years ago.

And it really, like, no institution is gonna save you from everybody being irrational, right?