Dr. Tara Swart

I'm so touched. The feeling is very mutual. I was so excited to have a platform that I could have this conversation with you and that you agreed to it. And I want to make sure out of just my respect for your work that you feel you're being able to touch on the things that you really deeply believe in and talk about.

So that's your thing. That's brilliant. Okay, good. Yeah, good. No, what is it, I guess, that you're most fascinated by right now? Like something that you're personally obsessed with? I imagine that when you're in discovery mode, just as when someone's healing, not healed. So in a scientist sense, it's like when you're learning, not teaching. Like what is that for you right now?

So that's your thing. That's brilliant. Okay, good. Yeah, good. No, what is it, I guess, that you're most fascinated by right now? Like something that you're personally obsessed with? I imagine that when you're in discovery mode, just as when someone's healing, not healed. So in a scientist sense, it's like when you're learning, not teaching. Like what is that for you right now?

Yeah, and I am too when I'm listening to you. I always think about how does something stop being a fad and a trend and the moment and how does it become a real shift in lifestyle and a commitment to whatever practice it is that you feel is valuable because I find that

Yeah, and I am too when I'm listening to you. I always think about how does something stop being a fad and a trend and the moment and how does it become a real shift in lifestyle and a commitment to whatever practice it is that you feel is valuable because I find that

As humans, we're always looking for the next thing to entertain us and you can also have a lot of spiritual entertainment and you can also have a lot of purposeful entertainment and it just becomes another thing that you kind of use in order to escape as opposed to, no, this is what I'm dedicating my life to and this is what I'm committing my life to, if that makes sense.

As humans, we're always looking for the next thing to entertain us and you can also have a lot of spiritual entertainment and you can also have a lot of purposeful entertainment and it just becomes another thing that you kind of use in order to escape as opposed to, no, this is what I'm dedicating my life to and this is what I'm committing my life to, if that makes sense.

Yeah, I was just trying to dissect and understand that because... Yeah, I think for me, it's been really interesting having learned a very ancient philosophy and then grappling with trying to make it make sense in the real life that I live now has been such a difficult, beautiful, graceful, awkward path to walk. And I don't think I figured it out.

Yeah, I was just trying to dissect and understand that because... Yeah, I think for me, it's been really interesting having learned a very ancient philosophy and then grappling with trying to make it make sense in the real life that I live now has been such a difficult, beautiful, graceful, awkward path to walk. And I don't think I figured it out.

I'm still walking that path and trying to make sense of it. And But I know that underlying it, and you talked about this, you alluded to this, this idea of having a purpose for life based on service, being a place that we're all trying to get to. I think that's been the only guiding light. Like that's been the only thing that is the light at the end of the tunnel that makes sense.

I'm still walking that path and trying to make sense of it. And But I know that underlying it, and you talked about this, you alluded to this, this idea of having a purpose for life based on service, being a place that we're all trying to get to. I think that's been the only guiding light. Like that's been the only thing that is the light at the end of the tunnel that makes sense.

And I find that when I'm, I'm deeply want to help people find theirs. And I find that what distracts us, me included from that, his past desires, future opportunities. And ultimately, I'd say the biggest one, which is what I want to talk about now, is this societal noise that keeps us bound. And that could be news cycles. It could be entertainment conversations.

And I find that when I'm, I'm deeply want to help people find theirs. And I find that what distracts us, me included from that, his past desires, future opportunities. And ultimately, I'd say the biggest one, which is what I want to talk about now, is this societal noise that keeps us bound. And that could be news cycles. It could be entertainment conversations.

It could be, like we talked about before, the expectations of work and life and people around us. And so you're so swept up in all of that. And naturally, most of the people around us, including us, are skewed towards negativity bias, confirmation bias. We're stuck. And so to override, going back to where we started, to override that kind of primitive self to say, no, I'm going to find the answer.

It could be, like we talked about before, the expectations of work and life and people around us. And so you're so swept up in all of that. And naturally, most of the people around us, including us, are skewed towards negativity bias, confirmation bias. We're stuck. And so to override, going back to where we started, to override that kind of primitive self to say, no, I'm going to find the answer.

I'm going to push is so rare, if not impossible.

I'm going to push is so rare, if not impossible.

that how does someone kind of let go of those shackles and going back to your prison point? How do you get out of the prison? Because the biggest, I can't remember who said this, but there's this idea of like, it's a Vedic concept, but I think maybe it's been said in a movie or something more recently, the idea that the best prisons are the ones where you can't see the handcuffs, right?

that how does someone kind of let go of those shackles and going back to your prison point? How do you get out of the prison? Because the biggest, I can't remember who said this, but there's this idea of like, it's a Vedic concept, but I think maybe it's been said in a movie or something more recently, the idea that the best prisons are the ones where you can't see the handcuffs, right?

This idea that you don't even know you're trapped. Wow.