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Dr. Thom Mayer

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162 total appearances

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The Action Catalyst
Leadership Is Worthless, But Leading Is Priceless, with Dr. Thom Mayer (Sports, Ukraine, 9/11, Medicine)

Well, first of all, I always hired people not only who were better than me but were much better than me. People would say, what's it like working for you? And the answer is I have zero idea because no one's ever worked for me. They've worked with me. I started almost every statement that I made to my folks, my team, by saying two things. One is, I need your help. Instead of, you've got a problem.

The Action Catalyst
Leadership Is Worthless, But Leading Is Priceless, with Dr. Thom Mayer (Sports, Ukraine, 9/11, Medicine)

Well, first of all, I always hired people not only who were better than me but were much better than me. People would say, what's it like working for you? And the answer is I have zero idea because no one's ever worked for me. They've worked with me. I started almost every statement that I made to my folks, my team, by saying two things. One is, I need your help. Instead of, you've got a problem.

The Action Catalyst
Leadership Is Worthless, But Leading Is Priceless, with Dr. Thom Mayer (Sports, Ukraine, 9/11, Medicine)

Starting with, I need your help. I mean, even if the person you're working with is a difficult person, you know, egocentric, whatever it might be, locked into the boss mentality instead of the leader mentality. When you say, I need your help, most people are going to say, okay, I'm going to try to help you. And two is I like saying, what would have to be true?

The Action Catalyst
Leadership Is Worthless, But Leading Is Priceless, with Dr. Thom Mayer (Sports, Ukraine, 9/11, Medicine)

Starting with, I need your help. I mean, even if the person you're working with is a difficult person, you know, egocentric, whatever it might be, locked into the boss mentality instead of the leader mentality. When you say, I need your help, most people are going to say, okay, I'm going to try to help you. And two is I like saying, what would have to be true?

The Action Catalyst
Leadership Is Worthless, But Leading Is Priceless, with Dr. Thom Mayer (Sports, Ukraine, 9/11, Medicine)

My point being, what would have to be true in order for us as a team to be able to deliver what it is you've just told me is something, a desired state we need? You know, here's where we are, here's where we want to be. What would have to be true in order to get there? Yeah. There's a difference. There's a fundamental paradox between a team of experts, a very smart, talented group of people.

The Action Catalyst
Leadership Is Worthless, But Leading Is Priceless, with Dr. Thom Mayer (Sports, Ukraine, 9/11, Medicine)

My point being, what would have to be true in order for us as a team to be able to deliver what it is you've just told me is something, a desired state we need? You know, here's where we are, here's where we want to be. What would have to be true in order to get there? Yeah. There's a difference. There's a fundamental paradox between a team of experts, a very smart, talented group of people.

The Action Catalyst
Leadership Is Worthless, But Leading Is Priceless, with Dr. Thom Mayer (Sports, Ukraine, 9/11, Medicine)

And that's not the same as an expert team, people who work seamlessly across boundaries, who understand what the goal is, the ability to trust each other, to come up with ideas. The Kansas City Chiefs, you know, famously are a very innovative team.

The Action Catalyst
Leadership Is Worthless, But Leading Is Priceless, with Dr. Thom Mayer (Sports, Ukraine, 9/11, Medicine)

And that's not the same as an expert team, people who work seamlessly across boundaries, who understand what the goal is, the ability to trust each other, to come up with ideas. The Kansas City Chiefs, you know, famously are a very innovative team.

The Action Catalyst
Leadership Is Worthless, But Leading Is Priceless, with Dr. Thom Mayer (Sports, Ukraine, 9/11, Medicine)

Well, that starts at the top with Andy Reid, who sits down with his entire staff, his entire team on the whiteboard and looks at ideas about different plays that they could run. How could we exploit in this situation, this down in distance, they're going to be in cover one, they're going to be in cover three. That's an expert team, a group of people saying, let's take creative chemistry.

The Action Catalyst
Leadership Is Worthless, But Leading Is Priceless, with Dr. Thom Mayer (Sports, Ukraine, 9/11, Medicine)

Well, that starts at the top with Andy Reid, who sits down with his entire staff, his entire team on the whiteboard and looks at ideas about different plays that they could run. How could we exploit in this situation, this down in distance, they're going to be in cover one, they're going to be in cover three. That's an expert team, a group of people saying, let's take creative chemistry.

The Action Catalyst
Leadership Is Worthless, But Leading Is Priceless, with Dr. Thom Mayer (Sports, Ukraine, 9/11, Medicine)

That's a great question. First of all, I didn't get a phone call. I made a phone call. Wow. I picked up the, you know, I saw what was happening. I thought, you know, I've been very fortunate, as you know, to have led in some of the most prominent crises of our generation. It's an honor to serve others in the course of that and to have been asked to have done so.

The Action Catalyst
Leadership Is Worthless, But Leading Is Priceless, with Dr. Thom Mayer (Sports, Ukraine, 9/11, Medicine)

That's a great question. First of all, I didn't get a phone call. I made a phone call. Wow. I picked up the, you know, I saw what was happening. I thought, you know, I've been very fortunate, as you know, to have led in some of the most prominent crises of our generation. It's an honor to serve others in the course of that and to have been asked to have done so.

The Action Catalyst
Leadership Is Worthless, But Leading Is Priceless, with Dr. Thom Mayer (Sports, Ukraine, 9/11, Medicine)

But to me, I thought this is an injustice that can't stand. I'm an emergency physician, so I'm uniquely trained. and have a mentality, you know, we have this weird thing of, you know, explosions, fire, you know, gunfire. We run into that, not away from it. You know, we're just not normal. And so I made phone calls connected with Team Rubicon, a group of former Marines.

The Action Catalyst
Leadership Is Worthless, But Leading Is Priceless, with Dr. Thom Mayer (Sports, Ukraine, 9/11, Medicine)

But to me, I thought this is an injustice that can't stand. I'm an emergency physician, so I'm uniquely trained. and have a mentality, you know, we have this weird thing of, you know, explosions, fire, you know, gunfire. We run into that, not away from it. You know, we're just not normal. And so I made phone calls connected with Team Rubicon, a group of former Marines.

The Action Catalyst
Leadership Is Worthless, But Leading Is Priceless, with Dr. Thom Mayer (Sports, Ukraine, 9/11, Medicine)

And so literally within three weeks of the invasion, We were there, boots on the ground in Ukraine in order to take care of patients. So having been at the tip of that sphere, exposed to air raids literally every day and every night, you know, I saw the results.

The Action Catalyst
Leadership Is Worthless, But Leading Is Priceless, with Dr. Thom Mayer (Sports, Ukraine, 9/11, Medicine)

And so literally within three weeks of the invasion, We were there, boots on the ground in Ukraine in order to take care of patients. So having been at the tip of that sphere, exposed to air raids literally every day and every night, you know, I saw the results.

The Action Catalyst
Leadership Is Worthless, But Leading Is Priceless, with Dr. Thom Mayer (Sports, Ukraine, 9/11, Medicine)

People blown out of their homes, blown out of their apartments in the middle of the night, having to get on a train and go 900 miles west and hope someone would be there to take care of them. But you see, it's hard not to think about what kind of mentality

The Action Catalyst
Leadership Is Worthless, But Leading Is Priceless, with Dr. Thom Mayer (Sports, Ukraine, 9/11, Medicine)

People blown out of their homes, blown out of their apartments in the middle of the night, having to get on a train and go 900 miles west and hope someone would be there to take care of them. But you see, it's hard not to think about what kind of mentality

The Action Catalyst
Leadership Is Worthless, But Leading Is Priceless, with Dr. Thom Mayer (Sports, Ukraine, 9/11, Medicine)

results in men doing that i think your point is extremely well taken that authoritarian way of dealing with things does not in my opinion have the right results

The Action Catalyst
Leadership Is Worthless, But Leading Is Priceless, with Dr. Thom Mayer (Sports, Ukraine, 9/11, Medicine)

results in men doing that i think your point is extremely well taken that authoritarian way of dealing with things does not in my opinion have the right results