Dr. Tommy Wood

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Huberman Lab · Accelerate Learning & Increase Cognitive Capacity | Dr. Tommy Wood · 20 Jul 2026 podcast

It requires them to like really focus and work hard to get the job done.

And both of those are perfectly reasonable states in which to perform.

And assuming that you have to be in flow to perform just isn't true if you look at like how, you know, athletes perform in the moment.

The other side of it is that some people have intimated that flow is required for learning or like optimal learning happens in flow, which doesn't make any sense, right?

If we talked about making mistakes and errors and friction required for learning, that is not conducive to flow because it can be stressful, it could be frustrating.

And sort of the other side of that is if flow is expressing your skill,

If you want to get better at that skill, you have to work even further beyond your current capacities, which will move you out of flow, right?

Because of like the friction, the mistakes and the errors that come from that.

So I think your flow is super interesting and I wouldn't pretend to be an expert in flow, but there are all these other states where learning happens, where performance happens that aren't flow and that's fine too, right?

But sometimes it's hard and that's okay.

No, no.

In the sports psychology literature, they'll talk about- So that's why I haven't seen it.

As it's described that way, because people might talk about virtuosos in a skill just because they're so much better than everybody else, right?

But that definition requires...

a specific scenario and moment of performance.

So then that sounds a lot like how I would think about flow.

And so when you look at some of the classic descriptions from individuals who've been in that kind of level,

There's this one from, so I do a lot of work in Formula One.

So there's one from Ayrton Senna, where he's- From who, I'm sorry?

Ayrton Senna.

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