Dr. Tony Wyss-Coray

35 to 40.

Degradation?

Any improvements?

Some go up, some go down.

And...

you know, it's speculative, but does that have something to do with this is how long nature needs us and then it doesn't care.

And, you know, the fact that we live now 80 or even longer on average, right, is really thanks to hygiene and, you know, certain medications that, you know, blood pressure and heart disease that we have been able to- Antibiotics.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, for many different infections, antibiotics are, you know, a lifesaver.

Absolutely.

Yeah, so it's a really good point.

And actually, my friend, Tom Randall, mentioned earlier, he always makes that point that, you know, a lot of the study look at lifespan as an outcome in animal models, but they don't really look at how...

active or what is sort of the level of that extended lifespan?

Are they just hanging in there, these organisms, or are they still strong and vital?

Is the vitality still there?

And I think we haven't found a magic that would keep everything together for a longer period of time, and certainly not in humans.

Yeah, maybe comes at a price.

The factors often are growth factors.

GDF-11 is one of them that has been described, growth and differentiation factor 11.