Drew Burney

So very similar to everything like what James saw, what Miller saw, very, very similar.

And there's been some work around this where it's like, yeah, there's these people who have these quantum change events very much matches up with that as well too.

I just want to hit before we get going though to a couple of things about this.

As you can imagine, this is incredibly difficult.

So what they did is, you know, Miller, they put an ad in the paper and has had people come tell us about what happened.

They didn't interview anybody before one of these happened, right?

And then measured their personality traits or anything.

You know, every now and then they'll try to get other people in their life and be like, is this, can you corroborate this, you know, this change?

And is it real?

And it usually matches up pretty well.

But it is a retrospective design.

There's some survivor bias too.

And people are like, oh yeah, I've changed.

I'll come tell you all about it.

Where the people have, you know, probably failed to change.

Won't.

We don't have a ton of cases in the literature either from this, but as you said, it's pretty common.

So with all those caveats in mind, it's more common than we let onto.

We can't predict it very well.

It's hard to describe.