Drew Hinshaw
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382 appearances
6 recordings
3 series
first heard Dec 2025
last heard 2d ago
Drew Hinshaw’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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We wanted to know, in the closed door rooms where European allies and Canadian allies talk candidly about the U.S., what do they see as the future of this alliance?
After Trump lost the 2020 election, Rutte, who was prime minister at the time, reached out to Trump, and they kept in contact throughout Trump's interlude as president.
And so in October 2024, Trump is leading all the polls.
And so they say we need someone who can be a Trump whisperer, so to speak.
When leaders talk about, oh, we need to have a new world order that's less dependent on America, he kind of says, keep on dreaming.
Are you going to spend 10% of your economy on defense?
Are you going to create a nuclear umbrella to protect Europe?
Who has a military that can project power globally the way the U.S.
can?
NATO is built around a single superpower, and that's the U.S.,
It's just, yeah, such a... They did a lot of this over the encrypted messaging app Signal.
And they would talk to each other like, how are we going to do this?
For example, at one point, Trump sort of lectured one of the European Union's top officials, Ursula von der Leyen, because she was advocating for sanctions on Russia.
So she starts calling economic pressure tariffs because she thinks that...
That will go down better.
European leaders met in Brussels in this beautiful palace, the 16th century palace, the Egmont Palace.
And they were there to all get on one page about what we're going to do.
As they're meeting here in this palace, Ruta, the secretary general, is saying, let's give the president a win.
So before they even get there, there's this frantic diplomacy by Ruta.
And he needs them all to do one thing, which is pledge that at some point they will spend 5% of their GDP on defense.
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