Drew Holden
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442 appearances
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first heard Mar 2026
last heard 25 Aug
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I think if we knew one, what the long-term consequences would be on physical health, on mental health, on the social fabric about what extended lockdowns can do a lot of information.
I will note we had before all of this started, but if we had all of that in hindsight,
if we knew what the learning loss was going to look like, I think lockdowns would have been a week, two weeks, maybe it was really 15 days to slow the spread.
I remember one time walking out of my apartment building where I lived in DC at the time, and it was probably, you know, 40 days into 15 days to slow the spread.
And I looked over at the, you know, the woman I was dating, who's now my wife, and I was like, wow, can you believe this is day 40 of 15 days to slow the spread?
And in retrospect, it's like, we had, you know, California had a year and a half of
15 days to slow the spread.
And so I think with the knowledge of hindsight, which is always unfair to look back at things, I understand that.
I think we would have said, all right, we don't know what this COVID thing looks like.
Maybe it makes sense to stop something, right?
Maybe it makes sense for kids to not go to school for a week or two until we know more about what's happening about transmission.
Maybe it makes sense for businesses to close for a couple of days.
Maybe it makes sense for people to not go to work if they don't feel comfortable.
But it wouldn't have been this endless, boundless,
forever lockdown that we saw in so many states.
We wouldn't have had all of these fights and these protests and these kind of debilitating social schisms.
I think it would come down to
what like the immediate reaction of what did lockdowns prevent and what is still happening beyond that right in new york at the time they had these these really really stringent serious lockdowns you couldn't go outside you couldn't you couldn't do it anything in the sun and they saw that covid cases continued to tick up and they continued to tick up despite the lockdowns despite all of these measures
And I think as soon as we realize, hopefully a lot earlier, again, with the wisdom of hindsight, that lockdowns weren't working the way we thought they were, and they were causing all these other issues and problems, right?
Within a couple of weeks, we had, I think, really compelling data about increases in deaths of despair, of alcoholism, of mental health issues, of mental health hospitalizations for adults and kids.
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