Drew Taggart

And you're like, what does it mean to you?

And you're like, you know how it sucks?

And you're like,

It doesn't mean anything.

We didn't write this.

That's why I think we're really not drawn to that type of thing because we really want to be able to tell people why this song's important, has meaning and purpose.

It does have meaning and purpose to someone.

But yeah, it was a fun one to make and then getting to finally get to play it.

I think we played it at Il Sun Mik for the first time.

He has a whole vibe.

I'm not sure if you've seen him online.

He looks like he's living in 2080, stylistically, and he's done some incredibly big shows.

I think he's one of the, other than Anitta, the most... Yeah, he's huge.

That's what is exciting about collaboration, I think, in general.

A taste of other parts of the world, yeah.

How other people approach their art, even the team from a promotional standpoint.

Like, how are you selling this record?

Or what tricks do you have up your sleeves?

Or who are the directors that you like to work with for music videos?

It's exciting.