Drew Taggart

And there were certain commonalities.

They were just like, you're going to think this.

It's not the truth, but you're going to do it anyways.

And then you'll be where I am right now.

So true, yeah.

And they're totally right.

Yeah, we're lucky.

The funny thing is, if anything, I feel like I've reverted back to where I think we're the strongest investor.

Our goal at Mantis is to be the sixth man on every championship team.

I want to work with the best investors who are investing in the best founders.

And I want to absorb the things that both those parties are doing to understand how to make better decisions and build a better firm.

And that doesn't mean we're not contrarian thinkers and we're certainly not followers.

but information is so readily available everywhere right now.

You do see the best companies generally gravitating towards a specific group of investors that have been winning for a long time now.

Or identifying the new ones.

Yeah, or specific individuals within those funds, more so than the brand of the fund itself.

And for us, you kind of just know when there's really interesting, exciting founder.

There's like a hysteria around them in a lot of ways.

I think there's that part of investing, which I find myself reverting back to.

I think some people might call like a signal investor, but at the same time, I think it's just this pattern where it's like the space, the founder, the team, the investors, the...