Duncan Keegan

with someone who's another way across the continent or on another side of the road.

But I would say the key thing is that we can travel in many instances and we can be in the presence of someone there with them.

And then you can really rub your nervous system up against someone else.

might have factors and features to aid the growth of children in a way that we couldn't quite imagine when we first started talking people use ai for like they're lonely and they're in grief and their loss and that's what they won't be looking to fight like it's actually more like will you turn to ai for this right or will you turn to a person who will really hear you and really know you right and and that goes to this

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's true.

It's true.

But, but, but it's that element of listening, that element of like, can he hear me?

You know, what is, what is, what is that?

What is that nature of like of someone being present and then of a person not being present?

And I think,

if we entrust the care of our loved ones and even our own sense of being seen and heard as another human, if we entrust it to something that isn't even there, in some way, like you say, it's a statistical process that's been rendered into an anthropomorphically engaging screen.

Like we're cheating ourselves and we're closing ourselves off from the mystery of what it is to be with another person.

And it is a mystery.

Right.

It is a mystery.

I love that.

I love that.