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Dwarkesh Patel

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy β€” AGI is still a decade away

My expectation is that it like blows up because I think true AGI, and I'm not talking about LLM coding bots, I'm talking about like actual, this is like a replacement of a human in a server, is qualitatively different from these other productivity improving technologies.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy β€” AGI is still a decade away

Because it's labor itself, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy β€” AGI is still a decade away

I think we live in a very labor-constrained world.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy β€” AGI is still a decade away

If you talk to any startup founder or any person, you can just be like, okay, what do you need more of?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy β€” AGI is still a decade away

You just need really talented people.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy β€” AGI is still a decade away

And if you just have billions of extra people who are inventing stuff, integrating themselves, making companies' bottoms start to finish, that feels qualitatively different from just like...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy β€” AGI is still a decade away

A single technology.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy β€” AGI is still a decade away

It's sort of like just asking if you get 10 billion extra people on the planet.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy β€” AGI is still a decade away

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy β€” AGI is still a decade away

I guess you have a machine which is spitting out more things like that at potentially a faster pace.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy β€” AGI is still a decade away

And so we historically have examples of the growth regime changing where, like, you went from, you know, 0.2% growth to 2% growth.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy β€” AGI is still a decade away

So it seems very plausible to me that, like, a machine which is then spitting out the next self-driving car and the next internet and whatever.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy β€” AGI is still a decade away

I think what often ends up being misleading in these conversations is people, I don't like to use the word intelligence in this context, because intelligence implies you think like, oh, a super intelligence will be sitting, there'll be a single super intelligence sitting in a server and it'll like divine how to come up with new technologies and inventions that causes this explosion.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy β€” AGI is still a decade away

And that's not what I'm imagining when I'm imagining 20% growth.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy β€” AGI is still a decade away

I'm imagining that there's billions of, you know, basically like very smart human-like minds potentially, or that's all that's required.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy β€” AGI is still a decade away

But the fact that there's hundreds of millions of them, billions of them, each individually growing,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy β€” AGI is still a decade away

making new products, figuring out how to integrate themselves into the economy.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy β€” AGI is still a decade away

Just the way if like a highly experienced smart immigrant came to the country, you wouldn't need to like figure out how we integrate them in the economy.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy β€” AGI is still a decade away

They figure it out.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy β€” AGI is still a decade away

They could start a company.