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Dwarkesh Patel

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

So you might see this thing where, like, your wages go, like, whoop, and then until you get to 90%, and then, like, just like that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

And then the last 1% is gone.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

And I wonder if we're seeing similar things with radiology or salaries of call center workers or anything like that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

I think there's been evidence that that's already been happening generally in companies that have been adopting AI, which I think is quite surprising.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

And I also find what was really surprising, okay, AGI, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

Like a thing which would do everything and, okay, we'll take out physical work.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

It's a thing which should be able to do all knowledge work.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

And what you would have naively anticipated that the way this regression would happen is like you would take a little task that –

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

consultant is doing, you take that out of the bucket.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

You take a little task that an accountant is doing, you take that out of the bucket.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

And then you're just doing this across all knowledge work.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

But instead, if we do believe we're on the path of AGI with the current paradigm, the progression is very much not like that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

At least...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

It just does not seem like consultants and accounts and whatever are getting like huge productive improvement.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

It's very much like programmers are like getting more and more chills of the way of their work.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

If you look at the revenues of these companies, discounting just like normal chat revenue, which I think is like, I don't know, that's similar to like Google or something.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

just looking at API revenues, it's like dominated by coding, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

So this thing which is general, quote unquote, which should be able to do any knowledge work, is just overwhelmingly doing only coding.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

And it's a surprising way that you would expect like the AGI to be deployed.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

I actually, I'm not sure if that alone explains it because...