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Dwarkesh

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Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

They have this big ideological role-changing mission.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

We're going to spread communism around the world.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And that isn't enough to prevent some war over, in the case of 1969, literally just islands in the middle of a river, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

There's like nothing super consequential at stake here.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So why didn't the fact that they were both these communist countries do more to cement the relationship?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So I want to understand...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

say, Stalin's decisions in particular in the case of telling the communists during the Chinese Civil War that you can go below the Yangtze River so that he can split up the communists and the nationalists in China and leave China weak.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

We know from all the actions in Stalin's life that he was a devoted communist, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

He does collectivization and almost destroys his regime because he's a devoted communist.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

At the same time... And so communism says that there has to be this worldwide revolution at some point.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

If there is a worldwide revolution, there will be other powerful communist countries.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So that's implied in the nature of what a worldwide communist revolution is.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

But at the same time, he's...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

You know, he doesn't seem communist enough to want China to become fully communist.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

He, like, cares more about real geopolitic.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

But did Stalin, as a communist, he thought, okay, there's going to be at some point, the whole world is going to be communist.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And he thought that he personally would be managing the whole world?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

If Stalin hadn't died, do you think a Sino-Soviet split was still inevitable?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Because yes, there wouldn't have been Khrushchev's secret speech.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Obviously, Stalin wouldn't have condemned the cult of personality, but the grievances you mentioned would still exist.