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Dwarkesh

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Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

This, I think, is a really interesting thing to consider from this lecture, that, you know, in retrospect, maybe one of the most important things, if not the most important thing that happened in the 20th century, is the Chinese Civil War.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

At the time, you know, you wouldn't think of this as a... Especially World War II has just happened...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

You wouldn't think of this as, if you were living in 1948 or 1949, you wouldn't think of this as the main thing happening in the world.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

But given that we know in retrospect this is a really big country with a huge population, we should be paying a lot of attention to its internal political development.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And I wonder if we should apply the same logic today where there's other countries with huge populations where we don't think a lot about what's happening.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

India or Nigeria.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

I mean, I really couldn't tell you the first thing about Nigeria, even though I know that it's a big country with a huge population.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Let's not try, because I don't know anything about it either.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Okay.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

I want to zoom in on one particular episode during this period that I think is fascinating.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So in 1936, the communists in China kidnap Chiang Kai-shek, who is the leader of the Nationalists.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And they're about to kill him.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And Stalin radios in over the comment term.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And he says, no, you can't kill Chiang Kai-shek.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Even though he's your enemy, he's been massacring you.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

You got to let him go.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And in exchange, Chiang Kai-shek has a promise to create a united front.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

against the Japanese.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Now there's 30,000 communist guerrillas when they're fighting the Japanese at this period.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And there's 1.5 to 2 million nationalist troops.