Dwarkesh

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Dwarkesh Podcast · Sarah Paine — How Russia sabotaged China's rise · 31 Oct 2025 podcast

But how does like communism make you, I feel like it's not just communism.

It's like something else that's making him a deft geopolitical actor.

When you show the maps of China in 1850, Russia also in 1850, especially 1900, Russia and China are still big countries today.

But if you just look at Qing Dynasty China, it's overwhelmingly big.

Same with Tsarist Russia before the Brest-Litovsk Treaty.

It makes you think that it's... At various points through history, at most points through history, China was technologically dominant over the West.

Except during this

one crucial period in this 18th and 19th century with the Industrial Revolution and high gear.

Which changes the whole world.

So just reinforces the idea that how important it is to be at the technological frontier, especially at historically cruxy times.

And of course, we're in San Francisco.

Many of us here believe that this is especially cruxy time in sort of the development of technology.

Okay.

I want to ask about your, I don't even call it a prediction, but your hypothesis that at some point China and Russia will finish each other off or have some sort of conflict, which will be bad for both of them.

Yes.

But the idea that there would be some sort of conflict between these two countries.

And I agree with the idea that, look, China has a lot of people and a lot of wealth.

Russia has a lot of water and it has a lot of resources.

So these are sort of complementary resources.

You know, they both have things that the other party has.

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