Dwarkesh

one crucial period in this 18th and 19th century with the Industrial Revolution and high gear.

Which changes the whole world.

So just reinforces the idea that how important it is to be at the technological frontier, especially at historically cruxy times.

And of course, we're in San Francisco.

Many of us here believe that this is especially cruxy time in sort of the development of technology.

Okay.

I want to ask about your, I don't even call it a prediction, but your hypothesis that at some point China and Russia will finish each other off or have some sort of conflict, which will be bad for both of them.

Yes.

But the idea that there would be some sort of conflict between these two countries.

And I agree with the idea that, look, China has a lot of people and a lot of wealth.

Russia has a lot of water and it has a lot of resources.

So these are sort of complementary resources.

You know, they both have things that the other party has.

And so then the question is, will they attain these things through war or through trade?

And it just seems very improbable to me that, you know, China's got a lot of money.

It can just pay for Russian oil.

It can just pay for water.

Why would it invade a nuclear-armed nation?

I guess, does that look like the bromance ending, right?

So North Korea has been for decades in a very desperate position.