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Dwarkesh

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1735 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

I do think that AI is going to be more similar to the cases where, number one, there's a giant power imbalance.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And number two, they are just extremely distinct groups that may have different interests.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Again, assuming things go incredibly well, we've avoided doom, we've avoided having some psychopath in power who doesn't care at all, then...

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

After AGI, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Then there's this question of, like, presumably we will have a lot of wealth somewhere.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

The economy will be growing at double or triple digits per year.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

What do we do about that?

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

The thoughtful answer that I've heard is some kind of UBI.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

I don't know how that would work, but presumably somebody controls these AIs, controls what they're producing, some way of distributing this in a broad-based way.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

What I'm afraid of is โ€“ so we wrote this scenario.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

There are a couple of other people with great scenarios.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

One of them goes by L. Rudolf L. online.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

I don't know his real name.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

In his scenario, which when I read it, I was just, oh, yeah, obviously this is the way our society would do this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

is that there is no UBI who is just like a constant reactive attempt to protect jobs in the most venial possible way.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

So things like the longshoremen union we have now where they're making way more money than they should be even though they could all easily be automated away because they're a political block and they've gotten somebody in power to say, yes, we guarantee you'll have this job almost as a feudal thief forever.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

and just doing this for more and more jobs.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

I'm sure the AMA will protect doctors' jobs no matter how good the AI is at curing diseases, things like that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

When I think about what we can do to prevent this,

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Part of what makes this so hard for me to imagine or to model is that we do have the super intelligent AI over here answering all of our questions, doing whatever we want.