Dwarkesh

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1,722 appearances 5 recordings 1 series first heard Apr 2025 last heard 25 Nov

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Dwarkesh Podcast · AI 2027: month-by-month model of intelligence explosion — Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo · 3 Apr 2025 podcast

In his scenario, which when I read it, I was just, oh, yeah, obviously this is the way our society would do this.

is that there is no UBI who is just like a constant reactive attempt to protect jobs in the most venial possible way.

So things like the longshoremen union we have now where they're making way more money than they should be even though they could all easily be automated away because they're a political block and they've gotten somebody in power to say, yes, we guarantee you'll have this job almost as a feudal thief forever.

and just doing this for more and more jobs.

I'm sure the AMA will protect doctors' jobs no matter how good the AI is at curing diseases, things like that.

When I think about what we can do to prevent this,

Part of what makes this so hard for me to imagine or to model is that we do have the super intelligent AI over here answering all of our questions, doing whatever we want.

You would think that people could just ask, hey, super intelligent AI, where does this lead?

Or what happens?

Or how is this going to affect human flourishing?

And then it says, oh yeah, this is terrible for human flourishing.

You should do this other thing instead.

And...

This gets back to kind of this question of mistake theory versus conflict theory in politics.

If we know with certainty, because the AI tells us that this is just a stupid way to do everything, is less efficient, makes people miserable, is that enough to get the political will to actually do the UBI or not?

Yeah, but I feel like Larry Summers, the president would just say, I don't trust him.

Maybe he doesn't trust him because he's a liberal.

Maybe it's because he trusts Peter Navarro or whoever his pro-tariff guy is more.

I feel like if it's literally the super intelligent AI that is never wrong, then, like—

We have solved some of these coordination problems.

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