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Eamon Dillon

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2002 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Crime World
Sean McGovern sentencing: the fall of Daniel Kinahan's second-in-command (Part 2)

Because stuff has already turned up in the media and they were quoting...

Crime World
Sean McGovern sentencing: the fall of Daniel Kinahan's second-in-command (Part 2)

Stuff that's already was now being tweeted and stuff that had gone up and they were referring to stuff that was in the window.

Crime World
Sean McGovern sentencing: the fall of Daniel Kinahan's second-in-command (Part 2)

So there was a panic, I think, really.

Crime World
Sean McGovern sentencing: the fall of Daniel Kinahan's second-in-command (Part 2)

It's more of an English-y slang for police.

Crime World
Sean McGovern sentencing: the fall of Daniel Kinahan's second-in-command (Part 2)

Yeah, I think they seem to be assured that the SIMs could be wiped and that the servers were in Russia and that whatever information that the law enforcement in Ireland could get, they wouldn't get it very quickly.

Crime World
Sean McGovern sentencing: the fall of Daniel Kinahan's second-in-command (Part 2)

So they didn't seem to be overly concerned in regard to that.

Crime World
Sean McGovern sentencing: the fall of Daniel Kinahan's second-in-command (Part 2)

But at the same time, when you were talking about the...

Crime World
Sean McGovern sentencing: the fall of Daniel Kinahan's second-in-command (Part 2)

when they were sending over that, I think the link to the Irish independence story, Bond texts, we have to change tactics mate, which McGovern, I suppose, presciently replies, we have to or we're all going to jail.

Crime World
Sean McGovern sentencing: the fall of Daniel Kinahan's second-in-command (Part 2)

So I don't think he was wrong there.

Crime World
Sean McGovern sentencing: the fall of Daniel Kinahan's second-in-command (Part 2)

It's possible the guards had their own undercover surveillance operation going on, no more than if the Kinnahan cartel thought to try and track James Mago Gately through his sister and his partner, that somebody in counterintelligence is going to think that's a good idea.

Crime World
Sean McGovern sentencing: the fall of Daniel Kinahan's second-in-command (Part 2)

So why don't we track them to see

Crime World
Sean McGovern sentencing: the fall of Daniel Kinahan's second-in-command (Part 2)

who comes up and tries to put stuff on their car or whatever.

Crime World
Sean McGovern sentencing: the fall of Daniel Kinahan's second-in-command (Part 2)

You know, it's quite possible.

Crime World
Sean McGovern sentencing: the fall of Daniel Kinahan's second-in-command (Part 2)

Now, at this stage then, I mean, they more or less, that kind of brought most of that kind of evidence from Detective Superintendent Gallagher to an end.

Crime World
Sean McGovern sentencing: the fall of Daniel Kinahan's second-in-command (Part 2)

Part of it then was kind of formal evidence where he's giving his kind of a CV.

Crime World
Sean McGovern sentencing: the fall of Daniel Kinahan's second-in-command (Part 2)

So again, this is usually to kind of

Crime World
Sean McGovern sentencing: the fall of Daniel Kinahan's second-in-command (Part 2)

I suppose to boost the power of his evidence.

Crime World
Sean McGovern sentencing: the fall of Daniel Kinahan's second-in-command (Part 2)

So he's explaining, you know, his 32 years experience, his knowledge of gangs and the experience he's acquired.

Crime World
Sean McGovern sentencing: the fall of Daniel Kinahan's second-in-command (Part 2)

And he's satisfied that the Kenan organized crime gang is an entity as such.

Crime World
Sean McGovern sentencing: the fall of Daniel Kinahan's second-in-command (Part 2)

And he talks about having this hierarchical structure in the sub cells where it was supposed to be spoke about some of this.