Ed Calderon

He was arrested in Texas.

They flew him into a private airfield under pretty interesting circumstances and then he handed himself over to authorities.

He was arrested there, I mean.

That kicked off a lot of violence in Mexico.

Why was he willing to fly in?

So there's different stories around it.

He's told his own story.

He's actually talked about this many times openly with his drivers and stuff like that, or driving around, so he just speaks about it.

He's older now.

He was a ghost.

This is... Elmayo Zambada was the legitimate leader of the Sinaloa cartel.

The U.S.

would say that it was Chapo Guzman

Not really.

The Sinaloa Cartel was a federation.

And a lot of the bigger, older parts of that cartel were kind of headed up by this figure, Elmayo Zambada, who in 50 years was never arrested, never grabbed, never caught.

You would hear about him vaguely in certain circles, but everybody knew that guy is the head of the Sinaloa Cartel or he's the bigger guy in that organization, which is a federation of groups.

Last time I was here, it was after the Culiacanazo, the incident where they rescued Ovidio, one of El Chapo's sons.

Two years ago, they finally got up to him.

The army did this operation.