Ed Calderon

A lot of people want to go take... A lot of people want to go take ayahuasca down there, but I don't see a lot of this probably coming back.

Or maybe, I don't know.

But that was... That's a big part of what they also did, you know?

A lot of bloodletting pain...

A lot of human sacrifice too.

Yes.

Which a lot of people in Mexico are now, oh, it's a big exaggeration.

It's like propaganda denial.

And then you go there and there's like stone skull piles commemorating whatever war and depictions of them in codices that they themselves made of just getting sacrificed people on top of pyramids, pulling out their hearts.

I mean, it makes sense.

Even the way that in the art it's depicted, you can't fake that.

Most people would think you'd go through the rib cage to get at the heart.

No, they go through the diaphragm right down here.

So that's why there's a lot of depictions of some of these gods like –

which is the lord of the underworld in the Aztecs.

Sometimes it's depicted with a skeletal form with its hands spread out like this, and you'll see a split diaphragm on the bottom coming out underneath its ribcage as a signifier that, you know, that's...

Well, they go up to grab the heart.

And again, I imagine that a lot of these things, I mean, you have to interpret because there are things out there that I don't understand.

But I know blood was very essential, and it was an essential thing for these cultures.

It's one of the most powerful offerings you can make.