Ed Husain

So it's very cynical.

Well, hold on.

Yes.

Yes.

That's extraordinarily irresponsible and dangerous, isn't it?

That's a statement of fact.

And the first individual to highlight this was, and she's no friend of mine, but we've got to be honest, and highlight her scholarship on this was Melanie Phillips in her book, Londonistan.

She highlights this danger.

Subsequently, Michael Goves highlighted it.

Subsequently, several recent ministers in the Home Office who've left their posts after the last general election have confirmed this in private conversations.

But all of this is backed up by our intelligence agencies by basically saying, we don't think the Muslim Brotherhood and the various Arab opposition parties inside these countries are terrorist, and we can't ban them because they're not terrorist organizations yet.

So we don't have the evidence and nor, by the way, do we have the resources to go and find out what they're really after because we've got 40,000 plus Al-Qaeda supporting terrorists, real terrorists.

We can't go further down and investigate what is basically an intelligence asset for us, having these groups here

The Bahraini opposition, the Emirati opposition, the Muslim Brotherhood from Egypt, they're all Muslim Brotherhood people.

They call themselves human rights activists, but they're all Muslim Brotherhood people that are an intelligence asset for the British government to leverage against our allies in the Arabian Peninsula.

It's a complicated and dirty game, I'm afraid, but that's where we are.

That's how the strategy started in the 1980s.

It's suicidal because they thought they could contain it.

Our government thought it would be just a group of guys sat in North London smoking in...

in Edgware Road.