Ed Husain

And then boom, in the late 80s, Hamas.

So now you have a paramilitary wing,

which is something the Muslim Brotherhood has, a paramilitary wing, much like the Waffen-SS the Nazis had.

So he now has a paramilitary.

That was Hamas.

That's how it was born in the late 80s.

We are seeing the same thing across the West.

So this is where the UAE and Bahrain, and to some extent now the Jordanians, the Kuwaitis, the Egyptians, have been lobbying Western governments, government to government, saying,

What you're saying is a charitable organization.

The model is that in Gaza, they've then become terrorists.

In Egypt, they became terrorists.

In our countries, they did exactly the same thing.

So Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed and others went to universities with these extremist Muslim Brotherhood people.

And they've said, we've seen this movie before and we're warning you, this is what's going on in the West.

So you've got to shut this operation down because from here you are giving them

platforms media platforms social media platforms with which they're radicalizing our populations against us and the wider muslim world and yes they're anti-semitic too and yes they support hamas and terrorism too to which the intelligence agencies and i've got to be blunt and i can do that because i'm here and we're here in america where we don't have to fear and knock on the door that our intelligence agencies basically quietly message this is mi6 and others that this is the chatter inside government that

Having these guys here, the Muslim Brotherhood and its various supporters, gives us leverage against Arab governments.

Because we can say to them, if you do A, B and C, we will unleash these dogs with greater amplification here against you.

So do you want the barking of the Brotherhood dogs to increase?

Or if you want us to work on a range of sensitive issues, let's kind of balance it out.