Eddie Fishman

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What Now? with Trevor Noah · Eddie Fishman: Understanding Iran · 11 Jun 2026 podcast

It is buried under this town called Isfahan in the middle of Iran, and we haven't done anything about it.

Yeah.

So I think one other challenge, and look, I think it's hard not to, sometimes we don't appreciate that societies can be complex, right?

And we often have to anthropomorphize other countries and say like, Iran did this or that, right?

I think the truth is within Iran, you've had different factions.

You had different people who said we should have a nuclear bomb, others who said we should at least have the capability to build one quickly if we need it.

Actually, Ayatollah Khamenei, the senior, the one who was killed a couple months ago in an Israeli strike, he actually had put out a fatwa, sort of this dictum, saying that we should never have nuclear weapons.

And so one theory, one sort of hypothesis is that

this sort of aging supreme leader, I think he was 86 when he was killed and had terminal cancer.

So he probably didn't have much long to live, even had Israel not offed him.

I think there's this theory that he sort of didn't want to actually have nuclear weapons, but a lot of these sort of hardline younger, young guns in Iran and the IRGC, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, did want nukes.

And so I think another sort of double irony here is that in sort of taking out the Khamenei senior,

They've now created the monster that they- You've radicalized the whole movement.

You've handed over power to people who are even more hardline than him.

And I think, look, I mean, we all, you know, Eugene, you live in New York, but we all- No, I live in South Africa.

We all live in New York.

There's a lot of, you know, the Iranian diaspora, you know, they're here.

And I think there was a lot of hope in that community earlier this year that, you know, this could be it.

You could finally get change.

Because I think it's important to note, like the Islamic Republic of Iran, like they're bad guys.

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