Eddie Fishman

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What Now? with Trevor Noah · Eddie Fishman: Understanding Iran · 11 Jun 2026 podcast

And that was not something I wanted to be a part of.

And so that was a big reason why

I decide to leave the government.

At the same time, when I look at friends and colleagues who have stayed around, I'm extremely grateful, right?

I'm grateful.

Because they were a bulwark in many ways.

And it's not even that, you know, because I think a lot of them like, you know, it's hard.

I think during Trump's first term, you did see, you know, and Trump gets mad about this, right?

That he is sort of the deep state was fighting against him.

But I mean, even if you're not necessarily a bulwark, like I think having...

intelligent people in the room who have some experience, who can sort of at the very least put their views out there, I think is so important.

Yeah.

And look, I think one of the things that has done Trump a disservice in his second term.

is he does not have a high caliber of cabinet or advisors around him.

He has a lot of people who really should not be anywhere near making decisions.

There are a few people there I think are quite, they're good, they're credible, but it's a much, much lower caliber than he had in his first term.

And I think that's part of the reason you've had, frankly, a less successful policy.

I couldn't agree more.

I think that, you know, in the process of writing Choke Points, I spoke to 30 or 40 people who were in the first Trump administration.

And one thing I heard consistently was a feeling that it was actually exciting because there was a tolerance of risk.

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