Eddie Fishman
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dollar, critical for all international business.
And so it was, I mean, I didn't use quite the accent that you just used, Trevor, although I probably should have.
It would have made me more credible.
And we did sort of give these folks sort of binary choices, which was like, look,
if you don't stop buying oil from Iran, you're going to lose access to the world's most important currency, the US dollar.
What I will say, though, is when you deliver that message to a foreign businessman or diplomat, it doesn't usually go over well.
They're like, what the hell are you doing here?
And so what helped us in those days was to say, look,
I'm just here because the UN, including your own country, has said that Iran shouldn't have a nuclear weapon.
And guess what?
Their oil sales are directly funding their nuclear program.
So I'm just here to help you comply with your international obligations.
And that may sound like, you know, glib or something like that, but it actually worked.
And it made this, it made it much more likely for the person on the other side of the table to be like, look, we are being pressured by the US, but truly like this is accurate.
It's a lot different if I just said that, like, look, the whole international community disagrees with me.
We shouldn't be doing this.
But still, you should stop doing business with Iran because I told you so.
Which is, by the way, that has been what Trump has tried to do with a lot of different countries in recent years, saying, like, if you don't do X or Y, I'm just going to wallop your economy with tariffs or sanctions.
But there's no.
There's no sort of legitimization that helps it go down easier, which also means not only is it a more awkward conversation, but from a very practical, self-interested perspective, that person on the other side of the table is way less likely to do what you want them to do.
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