Eddie Vaca

So I saw the video wave coming, working from a digital publication into digital at home video was that next wave.

And I needed that experience.

So I went and I learned everything that I could about the video space and online.

Oh, geez.

I was 30 years old when I went to Ustream.

I stood there for a couple of years.

Yeah, I was there for a couple of years.

You're spot on, Nathan.

I mean, you've nailed that one.

So I don't know.

I wasn't part of those negotiations or those tactics, but I would believe that with Ustream's new business model being SaaS-oriented and trying to grow that business, IBM is the perfect partner to take them to that next level.

So that's why they did it.

That's my assumption.

Um, you know, I, I, I don't know, to be, to give you like an honest answer.

I don't know what was flawed with it.

Um, as, as a media company, it was fantastic.

You know, 80 million unique visitors a month.

Um, you look at that and Twitch and they're, they were side by side.

I think the direction to go SAS and growing that monthly reoccurring revenue, um, was just in the beginning of phases.

IBM saw an opportunity and said, let's jump on this.