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Ege Erdil

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
529 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

And so I think people just under-emphasize

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

the support that is had from the overall upgrading of your technology, of the supply chains, of various sectors that are important for that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

And people focus on just specific individuals of like, you know, Einstein had this genius insight.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

And like, you know, he was...

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

The kind of very pivotal thing in the causal chain that resulted in these discoveries or Newton was just extremely important for discovering calculus without thinking about, well, there was this kind of all these other factors that produced lenses, that produced telescopes, that got the right data and that made people ask questions about.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

dynamics and so on that motivated some of these questions.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

And those are also extremely important for science, scientific and technological innovation.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

And so, like, you might ask the question of, isn't it, like...

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

basically half of what's going to happen with AI that you scale up you know capital accumulation in China but actually that's really not like if you get both of these things to scale that gives you just much faster growth and a very different picture but at the same time if you're just asking like what would 30% growth per year like look like like in terms of like if you're just going to have an intuition for how transformative that would be in concrete terms then I think looking at China is not such a bad case like you can especially in the

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

I think also looking at the Industrial Revolution is pretty good.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

But just in terms of the margins along which we made progress in terms of products.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

The thing that didn't happen during the Industrial Revolution is we just

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

produced a lot more of things that people were producing prior to the industrial revolution, like producing a lot more crops and maybe a lot more kind of pre-industrial revolution style houses or whatever on farms.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Instead, what we got is along pretty much every main sector of the economy, we just had many different products that are totally different from what was being consumed prior to that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So in transportation, in food,

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

I think there's a very important distinction between what is necessary to scale to get to this Dyson Sphere world and what is important.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Like in some sense, producing food is necessary.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

But of course, producing food doesn't get you to Dyson Sphere, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So I think R&D is necessary.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

but on its own isn't sufficient.