Eiso Kant

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Latent Space: The AI Engineer Podcast · Inside the Model Factory — Eiso Kant, Poolside AI · 23 Jul 2026 podcast

And ever since, we never ended up doing that deal.

And we used it as a reminder to never round down our ambitions.

Because that would have been the easy path.

And the hard path was what we did, which is start and try to raise exorbitant amounts of money when you're just a couple of guys who are not even building it in Silicon Valley, who don't come from any of the known navs and things like this.

And so everyone assumes poolside because AGI, everyone sits poolside.

And it was a playful name and we liked it and it was a little bit different.

But actually the name is like a reminder for us to never round down our ambitions.

And whenever you're faced with those decisions to just pick the harder path.

you know i don't have that much opportunities to to ask like just how do you do that kind of raise to that kind of to those kinds of vcs what are they looking for you know like yes vaguely agi but like what do they want when you look it's the world's definitely changed right when we were raising that 500 million dollar round the majority of investor conversations were still trying to explain that these models were not just stochastic parrots and that they were going to keep going uh

I've seen the world go from open AI is going to win it all and there's no one else who can build company, right?

I mean, Anthropic struggled, you know, to raise their $500 million round.

It was kind of like well-reported.

They pulled it off gladly.

And so I think when we raised that, it was about a year and a half ago at this point, the world was very different than it is today.

I think the world today...

There's been this function where the number of people who believe AGI is real is probably a super linear or definitely some form of an exponential function itself.

And I think this is important because if you hold the belief that we had three years ago and a year and a half ago, and we looked for people who shared that belief, which is like this technology is going to fundamentally underpin everything that's economically valuable and scientifically interesting for the future.

then the value function afterwards is easy to understand, which is like, hey, if you get there, you are one of the players who can build this commodity.

And over the years, building that commodity has become not just about building models, but also about building infrastructure and other things.

And so I think today, because the number of people is bigger and the outcomes have been proven, I think the incredible financial success that Anthropic is having right now and the growth that OpenAI has had and others and Google no longer make this a question of is their product market fit.

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