Elaine Boyes
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157 appearances
4 recordings
1 series
first heard Feb 2025
last heard Mar 2025
Elaine Boyes’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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I just thought, well, I better be honest and just say to him, well, David, I'm not very good, actually. Have you heard about Ron? He replied that yes, he had heard. And his complete demeanour changed, his voice changed. And he said, oh yes, he said, I was going to send his mum some flowers. And it was very scary because what he said was, he said, I'm in Leeds.
He said, I want to come and talk to you and take you for lunch. And I tried to escape from that. I tried to say, well, actually, I don't have a lunch break. And he said, no, I really want to come and see you. They've got to let you have a break. Everybody's entitled to a lunch break. So I said, well, OK. I said, I actually work in the office at an upmarket coffee shop in Harrogate.
If I give you the directions, we can have a coffee. How about that? So he said, yeah, that's fine. So I said, I'll be there within 40 minutes. Put the phone down and I literally froze.
I was scared because I felt he was guilty. Whether it was an argument, whether it was a fight, whatever it was, he was involved with Ron's death. I just knew it. I just knew in ear. You just know. Sometimes you've got to trust your gut instinct. And my gut instinct said he was involved in what shape or form. I didn't know, but he was involved and he was covering it up.
The priority is I need to phone the police. I need to phone Bill McDonald and let him know that David Davis is actually on the way to the office. So that's what I did.
Limit your time with him. Be with him as short a time as possible. Don't ask him any questions. And as soon as he's gone, give us a ring.
And she said, what's wrong? What's wrong with you? And I said, you and the police both said that he wouldn't come anywhere near me, this man. He's on his way now from Leeds train station through to Harrogate to meet me here. So, you know, she looked at me and she said, you what? You've sent a murderer to my office.
In the moments before he got here, I was extremely nervous and extremely agitated.
This is where he came, yeah. And this is where we sat, probably round about here now, on these lovely cosy armchairs opposite each other. It was a very surreal experience, to be honest, because I hadn't seen David since 1993.
We talked about Ron. We talked about what Ron was like and how sad it was that he died. He explained how he felt sorry, sad for Ron, and how he'd shed tears for him on the way up on the train, which I found a bit disturbing because his eyes glazed over, but for some reason I sort of sensed that it was acting. I didn't feel it was genuine tears.
He asked me something, and he said to me, he said, I don't know what to do with Ron's possessions. And I looked at him and I said, what do you mean Ron's possessions? Well, you know, all his things. And I said, oh, I said, I don't think the police know where his things are. And he suddenly changed the subject.
Ken came out and sort of looked at his watch and pointed, you know, sort of indicated, come back into the office, Elaine. I sort of said, oh, look, I've got to go, David. I said, they've been really, really good. But then with time running out... Just as I was about to leave, he did say, the police don't know what happened, do they? And I said, no, they don't.
And I said, oh, David, it's nothing to worry about. I said, they'll just be trying to close the case, and they're just ticking boxes, basically. So I was actually trying to put him at ease. I wanted him to think that I didn't know anything, and I didn't have any suspicions. I certainly didn't want him to be suspicious of me at all.
I don't want to lose my job, David. You know, I better go, I better get back into the office. And he said, oh, no, no, I don't want you to lose your job either. And then as he stood up and I was walking towards the door, he sort of held my hand in his hand and said, you know, I really do care for you. And he looked me right in the eyes and I just sort of smiled and nodded.
And at that point I felt quite sick and I thought, oh, I just want to get into the office. I just wanted to escape, really. Yeah, that was really, really hard. It was almost like you were just desperate to get away and get back into the office and phone the police and get him out, really.
We can only hold him for so many hours and we need as much information as we can. So I agreed. I said, OK.
A 30-page statement. It was the longest statement that this particular detective had ever done. 30 pages.
In the conversation about when they arrested Noel and David Davis, the detective started talking about David Davis and they were talking about his children.
And I said, oh, yeah, I said, there's Jill, who lives in New York. There's Noelle, who's with dad. And there's a younger one called Heather.
And she said, no, I'm talking about her children, Noelle's children.
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