Elan Barenholtz
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2,007 appearances
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first heard Feb 2025
last heard Jun 2025
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Uh, you know, Chomsky's probably the stimulus, all of these problems of how do we get uh to such a magnificent space, uh how do we get to such a magnificent shape shape of this space such that it is able to map to, you know, the or or at least um
serve this utility of of being uh a a coordinative kind of a tool.
All of that has to happen.
Um, but the bottom line of what language is is uh is is unchanged in this in this in this account.
that is that is the key question.
That that I believe that's what we need to solve.
That's sort of what the field of linguistics or whatever we want to call it, maybe even cognition, needs to solve because these mappings are happening.
Um
What we know from the large language models is you don't need that in order to be proficient in language.
So this is where we we we have to start from that's the starting point.
That the the language can live on its own and you can learn language.
th in theory, you can learn language independent of any of that stuff.
The ability to make somebody get up and move, uh to the the ability for me to to to reason about perceptual phenomena.
Language is able to be mastered entirely based on its its own structure, the meaningless squiggles.
Now, the question you're raising is is what I think is sort of that that's that's what we need to that's what we need to do as as a special
species to if we want to understand scientifically what language uh how language really works.
is to understand how you go from an autonomous self-generating system that has its own rules, its own self-generative rules, uh and that that are determined simply by relations between these meaningless squiggles, and how does that then get mapped to
meaning um to the ability for the for for me to use some of those tokens and then get you to do stuff.
Right.
And so that is what's that's what language learning is is there so I I there's there's gonna be, I guess we can think of t almost two, maybe even independent processes.
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