Elan Barenholtz
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first heard Feb 2025
last heard Jun 2025
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simply the learned relations between words.
And so this really hit me very, very hard.
Uh I'm I've long been uh uh puzzled by, as many are, by the mind-body problem, uh the the phenomenon of consciousness, um, the problem of how do we know your red is my red.
And actually the the moment that I had this realization uh was rel related to this very question.
I just realized that the word red doesn't mean
What we mean by qualitative red.
Uh the qualitative red is taking place in our sensory perceptual system.
The word red wi for to a large language model can't mean that.
It can't mean any color, it has no color phenomena, it has no c concept of what sensory red would mean.
Yet it is able to use the word red with equal ability, with equal competency and
It just as well as I can if we're just having a conversation about it.
And so what this means is that within the corpus of language, the word red doesn't mean something external.
to itself.
Instead, the word red simply means where does it fall in the space of language itself?
Where does red fall in relation to other colors?
Into the relation to the word color, in relation to other concepts, other well, frankly just words, tokens, uh, that are related to what we call concepts that have to do with color and have to do with the word red.
So yeah, so this epiphany was about this extraordinary um dichotomy, this divide between language and that which we think language refers to.
The question is, how does language refer?
And the answer is it doesn't.
Language doesn't refer in and of itself.
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