Eleanor Gordon Smith

While they granted, you know, not something that was likely to get them a girlfriend, at least it was attention and there was some sort of camaraderie that they could get going between them and a woman that maybe then from there they could say something a little more likely to instigate a relationship. So I got this weird, inconsistent mash of motivations from them.

While they granted, you know, not something that was likely to get them a girlfriend, at least it was attention and there was some sort of camaraderie that they could get going between them and a woman that maybe then from there they could say something a little more likely to instigate a relationship. So I got this weird, inconsistent mash of motivations from them.

But one thing they all had in common, which is when I said to them, do you think that women like this? Like, is part of your motivation the sense that women, too, are enjoying what you're doing? To a man, they all said, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I'm totally confident that women are enjoying this, and I wouldn't dream of doing it if they didn't.

But one thing they all had in common, which is when I said to them, do you think that women like this? Like, is part of your motivation the sense that women, too, are enjoying what you're doing? To a man, they all said, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I'm totally confident that women are enjoying this, and I wouldn't dream of doing it if they didn't.

But one thing they all had in common, which is when I said to them, do you think that women like this? Like, is part of your motivation the sense that women, too, are enjoying what you're doing? To a man, they all said, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I'm totally confident that women are enjoying this, and I wouldn't dream of doing it if they didn't.

It's so that she can have fun and enjoy the night, which made it all the more peculiar that when I said, hey, buddy, I don't think that they are enjoying it, that they weren't receptive to that.

It's so that she can have fun and enjoy the night, which made it all the more peculiar that when I said, hey, buddy, I don't think that they are enjoying it, that they weren't receptive to that.

It's so that she can have fun and enjoy the night, which made it all the more peculiar that when I said, hey, buddy, I don't think that they are enjoying it, that they weren't receptive to that.

You know, I mean, if you have a stated motivation, which is to give a certain kind of person a good time, and then you find out they're not having a good time, well, by your lads, you should care about that. But they didn't.

You know, I mean, if you have a stated motivation, which is to give a certain kind of person a good time, and then you find out they're not having a good time, well, by your lads, you should care about that. But they didn't.

You know, I mean, if you have a stated motivation, which is to give a certain kind of person a good time, and then you find out they're not having a good time, well, by your lads, you should care about that. But they didn't.

Yeah, I mean, I was baffled by it as well. And so that's kind of the next question that I pursued was to say, like, well, what evidence do you have for why you think women enjoy this? And it was really striking to me that the thing they all said was this kind of conclusive proof was the fact that the women that they did this to smiled and laughed.

Yeah, I mean, I was baffled by it as well. And so that's kind of the next question that I pursued was to say, like, well, what evidence do you have for why you think women enjoy this? And it was really striking to me that the thing they all said was this kind of conclusive proof was the fact that the women that they did this to smiled and laughed.

Yeah, I mean, I was baffled by it as well. And so that's kind of the next question that I pursued was to say, like, well, what evidence do you have for why you think women enjoy this? And it was really striking to me that the thing they all said was this kind of conclusive proof was the fact that the women that they did this to smiled and laughed.

And that's striking and it really resonated with me because I know that I smile and laugh when men do this to me. And I kind of, I don't like that about myself. It makes me feel quite embarrassed and like I'm capitulating to something that I shouldn't be capitulating to.

And that's striking and it really resonated with me because I know that I smile and laugh when men do this to me. And I kind of, I don't like that about myself. It makes me feel quite embarrassed and like I'm capitulating to something that I shouldn't be capitulating to.

And that's striking and it really resonated with me because I know that I smile and laugh when men do this to me. And I kind of, I don't like that about myself. It makes me feel quite embarrassed and like I'm capitulating to something that I shouldn't be capitulating to.

But it's true that one reaction that women can have to feeling frightened or put on the spot is that in order to kind of de-escalate the situation, you do laugh and you smile and you just do what's necessary to kind of get out of there in a relatively frictionless way. So I would try to explain this to these guys. You know, I would say like, Yeah, you're right.

But it's true that one reaction that women can have to feeling frightened or put on the spot is that in order to kind of de-escalate the situation, you do laugh and you smile and you just do what's necessary to kind of get out of there in a relatively frictionless way. So I would try to explain this to these guys. You know, I would say like, Yeah, you're right.

But it's true that one reaction that women can have to feeling frightened or put on the spot is that in order to kind of de-escalate the situation, you do laugh and you smile and you just do what's necessary to kind of get out of there in a relatively frictionless way. So I would try to explain this to these guys. You know, I would say like, Yeah, you're right.