Eleanor Gordon Smith

And that's striking and it really resonated with me because I know that I smile and laugh when men do this to me. And I kind of, I don't like that about myself. It makes me feel quite embarrassed and like I'm capitulating to something that I shouldn't be capitulating to.

And that's striking and it really resonated with me because I know that I smile and laugh when men do this to me. And I kind of, I don't like that about myself. It makes me feel quite embarrassed and like I'm capitulating to something that I shouldn't be capitulating to.

And that's striking and it really resonated with me because I know that I smile and laugh when men do this to me. And I kind of, I don't like that about myself. It makes me feel quite embarrassed and like I'm capitulating to something that I shouldn't be capitulating to.

But it's true that one reaction that women can have to feeling frightened or put on the spot is that in order to kind of de-escalate the situation, you do laugh and you smile and you just do what's necessary to kind of get out of there in a relatively frictionless way. So I would try to explain this to these guys. You know, I would say like, Yeah, you're right.

But it's true that one reaction that women can have to feeling frightened or put on the spot is that in order to kind of de-escalate the situation, you do laugh and you smile and you just do what's necessary to kind of get out of there in a relatively frictionless way. So I would try to explain this to these guys. You know, I would say like, Yeah, you're right.

But it's true that one reaction that women can have to feeling frightened or put on the spot is that in order to kind of de-escalate the situation, you do laugh and you smile and you just do what's necessary to kind of get out of there in a relatively frictionless way. So I would try to explain this to these guys. You know, I would say like, Yeah, you're right.

You are seeing some smiles and some laughs. But let me authoritatively tell you, as someone who also does these smiles and laughs, that they're in fact precisely evidence of discomfort rather than evidence of the fact that she's really having fun. And they just didn't.

You are seeing some smiles and some laughs. But let me authoritatively tell you, as someone who also does these smiles and laughs, that they're in fact precisely evidence of discomfort rather than evidence of the fact that she's really having fun. And they just didn't.

You are seeing some smiles and some laughs. But let me authoritatively tell you, as someone who also does these smiles and laughs, that they're in fact precisely evidence of discomfort rather than evidence of the fact that she's really having fun. And they just didn't.

believe me, you know, I would say this over and over to different men and they would all come back with some variation on the theme that I was particularly sensitive and that I couldn't speak for all women, which was funny because it implied that they could.

believe me, you know, I would say this over and over to different men and they would all come back with some variation on the theme that I was particularly sensitive and that I couldn't speak for all women, which was funny because it implied that they could.

believe me, you know, I would say this over and over to different men and they would all come back with some variation on the theme that I was particularly sensitive and that I couldn't speak for all women, which was funny because it implied that they could.

It didn't work. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I still, so since then, I embarked on this project, which the book is the kind of final combination of, which was I went out and I spoke to people who really did change their minds. I went to try to find stories where persuasion works and where we are able to get people back to the truth and to better sets of beliefs, I guess.

It didn't work. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I still, so since then, I embarked on this project, which the book is the kind of final combination of, which was I went out and I spoke to people who really did change their minds. I went to try to find stories where persuasion works and where we are able to get people back to the truth and to better sets of beliefs, I guess.

It didn't work. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I still, so since then, I embarked on this project, which the book is the kind of final combination of, which was I went out and I spoke to people who really did change their minds. I went to try to find stories where persuasion works and where we are able to get people back to the truth and to better sets of beliefs, I guess.

And I still have a lot of faith in the idea that we can reach each other with rational debate or with something like what I was trying to do in those conversations with catcallers. I just also think that there are a large number of missing ingredients that we can do ourselves a certain disservice by saying, forgetting to include when we set out on these kinds of persuasive missions.

And I still have a lot of faith in the idea that we can reach each other with rational debate or with something like what I was trying to do in those conversations with catcallers. I just also think that there are a large number of missing ingredients that we can do ourselves a certain disservice by saying, forgetting to include when we set out on these kinds of persuasive missions.

And I still have a lot of faith in the idea that we can reach each other with rational debate or with something like what I was trying to do in those conversations with catcallers. I just also think that there are a large number of missing ingredients that we can do ourselves a certain disservice by saying, forgetting to include when we set out on these kinds of persuasive missions.

You know, things like emotional, things like what does this belief mean to you? I think something that I didn't really take into account when I was talking to these cat callers was that I was really asking them to let go of something that was quite foundationally important to the way they saw themselves.

You know, things like emotional, things like what does this belief mean to you? I think something that I didn't really take into account when I was talking to these cat callers was that I was really asking them to let go of something that was quite foundationally important to the way they saw themselves.