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Serialously with Annie Elise
272: Karen Read Trial Recap Week 3: Solo Cups, Butt Dials & Witnesses Scramble to Cut Ties with the Alberts/Proctor

Now, regardless of whether you believe that Ryan was correct and John wasn't in the car, or you believe that Heather was correct and John was in the car, the point is they both saw Karen arrive at Fairview shortly before 1230. And they remained there for at least a couple of minutes and they didn't observe any sort of accident.

Serialously with Annie Elise
272: Karen Read Trial Recap Week 3: Solo Cups, Butt Dials & Witnesses Scramble to Cut Ties with the Alberts/Proctor

Now I bring this up because if it is in fact true that Karen connected to John's Wi-Fi by around 12.37am, the time window that she could have hit him is getting really, really narrow. Now the next witness was Sarah Levinson. Sarah was at the house also celebrating Brian Elbow Jr. 's birthday. And Sarah left the party with Jen and Matt McCabe between 1.30 and 2 a.m.

Serialously with Annie Elise
272: Karen Read Trial Recap Week 3: Solo Cups, Butt Dials & Witnesses Scramble to Cut Ties with the Alberts/Proctor

Now I bring this up because if it is in fact true that Karen connected to John's Wi-Fi by around 12.37am, the time window that she could have hit him is getting really, really narrow. Now the next witness was Sarah Levinson. Sarah was at the house also celebrating Brian Elbow Jr. 's birthday. And Sarah left the party with Jen and Matt McCabe between 1.30 and 2 a.m.

Serialously with Annie Elise
272: Karen Read Trial Recap Week 3: Solo Cups, Butt Dials & Witnesses Scramble to Cut Ties with the Alberts/Proctor

Now I bring this up because if it is in fact true that Karen connected to John's Wi-Fi by around 12.37am, the time window that she could have hit him is getting really, really narrow. Now the next witness was Sarah Levinson. Sarah was at the house also celebrating Brian Elbow Jr. 's birthday. And Sarah left the party with Jen and Matt McCabe between 1.30 and 2 a.m.

Serialously with Annie Elise
272: Karen Read Trial Recap Week 3: Solo Cups, Butt Dials & Witnesses Scramble to Cut Ties with the Alberts/Proctor

And she testified that at that time, she didn't see anything unusual or body-like in the yard at this time. Then on cross-examination, Jackson brought up that Sarah had apparently been to 34 Fairview around 20 times, but she had never met their German shepherd, Chloe.

Serialously with Annie Elise
272: Karen Read Trial Recap Week 3: Solo Cups, Butt Dials & Witnesses Scramble to Cut Ties with the Alberts/Proctor

And she testified that at that time, she didn't see anything unusual or body-like in the yard at this time. Then on cross-examination, Jackson brought up that Sarah had apparently been to 34 Fairview around 20 times, but she had never met their German shepherd, Chloe.

Serialously with Annie Elise
272: Karen Read Trial Recap Week 3: Solo Cups, Butt Dials & Witnesses Scramble to Cut Ties with the Alberts/Proctor

And she testified that at that time, she didn't see anything unusual or body-like in the yard at this time. Then on cross-examination, Jackson brought up that Sarah had apparently been to 34 Fairview around 20 times, but she had never met their German shepherd, Chloe.

Serialously with Annie Elise
272: Karen Read Trial Recap Week 3: Solo Cups, Butt Dials & Witnesses Scramble to Cut Ties with the Alberts/Proctor

And to me, he asked this to further the defense's argument that Chloe was dangerous, and the Elberts knew it, so they tried to keep her away from strangers whenever possible. Now that brings us to testimony from Katie McLaughlin, an EMT firefighter. Katie was one of the first emergency workers on the scene to treat John, and she testified that Karen told her the infamous, I hit him statement.

Serialously with Annie Elise
272: Karen Read Trial Recap Week 3: Solo Cups, Butt Dials & Witnesses Scramble to Cut Ties with the Alberts/Proctor

And to me, he asked this to further the defense's argument that Chloe was dangerous, and the Elberts knew it, so they tried to keep her away from strangers whenever possible. Now that brings us to testimony from Katie McLaughlin, an EMT firefighter. Katie was one of the first emergency workers on the scene to treat John, and she testified that Karen told her the infamous, I hit him statement.

Serialously with Annie Elise
272: Karen Read Trial Recap Week 3: Solo Cups, Butt Dials & Witnesses Scramble to Cut Ties with the Alberts/Proctor

And to me, he asked this to further the defense's argument that Chloe was dangerous, and the Elberts knew it, so they tried to keep her away from strangers whenever possible. Now that brings us to testimony from Katie McLaughlin, an EMT firefighter. Katie was one of the first emergency workers on the scene to treat John, and she testified that Karen told her the infamous, I hit him statement.

Serialously with Annie Elise
272: Karen Read Trial Recap Week 3: Solo Cups, Butt Dials & Witnesses Scramble to Cut Ties with the Alberts/Proctor

Now, this is the third witness who's testified to Karen saying, I hit him. We heard paramedic Timothy Nuttall say it, and we have, of course, heard Jen McCabe say it. As I've said before, I think this alleged mission is one of the biggest parts of the prosecution's case. So when it's brought up, we need to pay close attention to how many times she said it, when she said it, and to who she said it.

Serialously with Annie Elise
272: Karen Read Trial Recap Week 3: Solo Cups, Butt Dials & Witnesses Scramble to Cut Ties with the Alberts/Proctor

Now, this is the third witness who's testified to Karen saying, I hit him. We heard paramedic Timothy Nuttall say it, and we have, of course, heard Jen McCabe say it. As I've said before, I think this alleged mission is one of the biggest parts of the prosecution's case. So when it's brought up, we need to pay close attention to how many times she said it, when she said it, and to who she said it.

Serialously with Annie Elise
272: Karen Read Trial Recap Week 3: Solo Cups, Butt Dials & Witnesses Scramble to Cut Ties with the Alberts/Proctor

Now, this is the third witness who's testified to Karen saying, I hit him. We heard paramedic Timothy Nuttall say it, and we have, of course, heard Jen McCabe say it. As I've said before, I think this alleged mission is one of the biggest parts of the prosecution's case. So when it's brought up, we need to pay close attention to how many times she said it, when she said it, and to who she said it.

Serialously with Annie Elise
272: Karen Read Trial Recap Week 3: Solo Cups, Butt Dials & Witnesses Scramble to Cut Ties with the Alberts/Proctor

Because you can bet that the defense is going to bring up all of those aspects. Now, on that note, Katie says that Karen said, I hit him four times. Jen McCabe said that Karen said it three times. In Nodal's first testimony, he said that Karen said it two times. Then in this trial, he's changed it to now back to three times.

Serialously with Annie Elise
272: Karen Read Trial Recap Week 3: Solo Cups, Butt Dials & Witnesses Scramble to Cut Ties with the Alberts/Proctor

Because you can bet that the defense is going to bring up all of those aspects. Now, on that note, Katie says that Karen said, I hit him four times. Jen McCabe said that Karen said it three times. In Nodal's first testimony, he said that Karen said it two times. Then in this trial, he's changed it to now back to three times.

Serialously with Annie Elise
272: Karen Read Trial Recap Week 3: Solo Cups, Butt Dials & Witnesses Scramble to Cut Ties with the Alberts/Proctor

Because you can bet that the defense is going to bring up all of those aspects. Now, on that note, Katie says that Karen said, I hit him four times. Jen McCabe said that Karen said it three times. In Nodal's first testimony, he said that Karen said it two times. Then in this trial, he's changed it to now back to three times.

Serialously with Annie Elise
272: Karen Read Trial Recap Week 3: Solo Cups, Butt Dials & Witnesses Scramble to Cut Ties with the Alberts/Proctor

Now, maybe the witnesses disagreeing on the specific detail of how many times she said it wouldn't be that big of an issue. But the thing is, they're all so adamant that their memories of this particular moment are really vivid. But clearly, they can't all be vividly correct because they disagree.

Serialously with Annie Elise
272: Karen Read Trial Recap Week 3: Solo Cups, Butt Dials & Witnesses Scramble to Cut Ties with the Alberts/Proctor

Now, maybe the witnesses disagreeing on the specific detail of how many times she said it wouldn't be that big of an issue. But the thing is, they're all so adamant that their memories of this particular moment are really vivid. But clearly, they can't all be vividly correct because they disagree.

Serialously with Annie Elise
272: Karen Read Trial Recap Week 3: Solo Cups, Butt Dials & Witnesses Scramble to Cut Ties with the Alberts/Proctor

Now, maybe the witnesses disagreeing on the specific detail of how many times she said it wouldn't be that big of an issue. But the thing is, they're all so adamant that their memories of this particular moment are really vivid. But clearly, they can't all be vividly correct because they disagree.

Serialously with Annie Elise
272: Karen Read Trial Recap Week 3: Solo Cups, Butt Dials & Witnesses Scramble to Cut Ties with the Alberts/Proctor

And get this, Katie says that at the time Karen said, I hit him, Timothy was in the ambulance with the doors closed and the engine on. So how is he so confident that he heard it? Now, here's the other thing about Katie. She has a connection with Caitlin. Wait for it. Albert, Brian Albert's daughter. But the nature of their relationship depends on who you ask.