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Now, the defense is set to continue first thing on Monday morning. And remember, the defense is only expected for their case to last about a week or two. And that's actually not uncommon. It doesn't mean that the defense doesn't have a strong case. For example, Casey Anthony's team only had about six days of testimony for the defense compared to 18 days from the prosecution.

Now, the defense is set to continue first thing on Monday morning. And remember, the defense is only expected for their case to last about a week or two. And that's actually not uncommon. It doesn't mean that the defense doesn't have a strong case. For example, Casey Anthony's team only had about six days of testimony for the defense compared to 18 days from the prosecution.

And we know how that worked out. Not to say that Casey and Karen are the same in any way, but just drives home the point that a long case doesn't necessarily mean a good one. But anyway, all of this means that we're quickly approaching the end, but there's still a lot of questions to be answered. Like, will the judge allow him these text messages from Proctor's friend?

And we know how that worked out. Not to say that Casey and Karen are the same in any way, but just drives home the point that a long case doesn't necessarily mean a good one. But anyway, all of this means that we're quickly approaching the end, but there's still a lot of questions to be answered. Like, will the judge allow him these text messages from Proctor's friend?

And we know how that worked out. Not to say that Casey and Karen are the same in any way, but just drives home the point that a long case doesn't necessarily mean a good one. But anyway, all of this means that we're quickly approaching the end, but there's still a lot of questions to be answered. Like, will the judge allow him these text messages from Proctor's friend?

And if not, will the defense be forced to call Proctor himself? What about Brian Higgins? Brian Albert? Still a lot to come, and I can't wait to see you guys next week to break it all down. Thanks, Annie.

And if not, will the defense be forced to call Proctor himself? What about Brian Higgins? Brian Albert? Still a lot to come, and I can't wait to see you guys next week to break it all down. Thanks, Annie.

And if not, will the defense be forced to call Proctor himself? What about Brian Higgins? Brian Albert? Still a lot to come, and I can't wait to see you guys next week to break it all down. Thanks, Annie.

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This is morbid, and we're not going to get right into it, but I just wanted to say we're talking about a case today that is rough.

This is morbid, and we're not going to get right into it, but I just wanted to say we're talking about a case today that is rough.

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For many reasons. For the company, for the aesthetic, the ambiance, the tattoos. The vibes. The vibbies. You got to do it all. Yeah, it's true.

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